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Plantar Fasciitis Has Very Little To Do With Your Foot

Discussion in 'Biomechanics, Sports and Foot orthoses' started by Craig Payne, May 14, 2016.

  1. Craig Payne

    Craig Payne Moderator

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    Have a read of this:
    Plantar Fasciitis Has Very Little To Do With Your Foot from a massage therapist

    It has been shared a lot recently in several plantar fasciitis support groups and showing their gullibility by lapping it up and falling for it.

    What do you think?
    How many statements can you count that are directly contradicted by the scientific evidence (HINT: I gave up counting)

    If loons are going to advocate these types of approaches, they really going to need to produce some evidence to back up their claims. ... otherwise, its just snake oil.
     
  2. W J Liggins

    W J Liggins Well-Known Member

    Do massage therapists in the USA and elsewhere have a recognised qualification, say in terms of BSc(Hons)? It all sounds a bit snake oil to me.

    Bill Liggins
     
  3. Craig Payne

    Craig Payne Moderator

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    From my understating the qualifications range from a short online course up to degree level. Whatever it is, the writer of the above certainly lack the critical thinking and analysis skills as well as an understanding of evidence that you would expect to go with a higher degree.

    There is a growing evidence based movement within massage therapy in the USA and I see one of their Facebook groups has been condemning the above for its lack of evidence and 'snake oil' approach.

    On the one hand we need more evidence and critical thinking skills in all professions but on the other hand social media is making it easier for cranks to get their unchallenged and unsupported messages out, which is why I posted a link to it --> a lot of people are reading this and sharing it in plantar fasciitis support groups!
     
  4. David Smith

    David Smith Well-Known Member

    I asked him a lot of questions on messenger (as he has an open invitation on his web site to do so) but then he didn't like the questions, gave no answers except to say obviously since I sell orthotics I don't know anything about biomechanics and he will only engage my questions if taken to his facebook page where his friends will support him DoH! looks like I'll have to go there then>:wacko:
    Oh BTW he admiited that even tho he taught at a uni he doesn't have a degree - "they're a waste of time and just an expensive bit of paper that teaches you nothing about real world biomechanics" - oh well so much time wasted on my MSc at uni for me eh!
     
    Last edited: May 16, 2016
  5. Craig Payne

    Craig Payne Moderator

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    lol!
    He makes stuff up; he makes so many statements directly contradicted by the scientific evidence and his excuse for that is you sell orthotics! WTF have "orthotics" got to do with him making stuff up?

    ...and then when you call him on it, the only place he will discuss it is within his own echo chamber .... that just confirms the snake oil approach. He is resorting to all the typical tropes and logical fallacies used by those that advocate pseudoscience and lack the critical thinking skills.

    I am always looking for new and innovative approaches, hence I found the above and read it and tried to understand it. What he is advocating is not theoretically coherent or biologically plausible and many of his claims are directly contradicted by the scientific evidence ...

    Some of what he says has merits and is worthy of further investigation, but when its shrouded in logical fallacies and pseudoscience, it then belongs on the snake oil pile. We have seen it so many times over the years. People like this come and go.
     
  6. AtomAnt

    AtomAnt Active Member

    I tried to read it. It reads like a word salad a whole lot of words thrown together that do not really mean anything.
     
  7. David Smith

    David Smith Well-Known Member

    Exaclty! I'm glad its not just me - I read that and other blogs thru a number of times but they are just gobbledegook, as you put it very well, 'word salad'.

    Dave
     
  8. Mike Plank

    Mike Plank Active Member

    Gobeldegook! Almost lost the will to live reading this! How can any of this be helpful to anyone?
     
  9. Craig Payne

    Craig Payne Moderator

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    Its "helpful" in that it is being widely shared and widely believed in many plantar fasciitis patient support groups online.

    I like the term "word salad", as that is what it is.
     
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