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Age Concern wants podiatry included in targets

Discussion in 'United Kingdom' started by NewsBot, Nov 16, 2007.

  1. NewsBot

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    The Hallifax Courier are reporting:
    'Elderly need good foot care'
     
  2. DAVOhorn

    DAVOhorn Well-Known Member

    How to reduce waiting lists for podiatry in one easy lesson.:pigs:


    See each patient once and once only then discharge to private practice easy.:drinks

    Every body has been seen by NHS :butcher:

    Done and dusted.

    easy.:bang::bash:

    regards David
     
  3. Peter

    Peter Well-Known Member

    Or round up the "non-diabetics" and throw them into a "group" education session. More pts seen, less staff employed.

    When it comes to Spin, the NHS has nailed it, nailed it!
     
  4. Thank goodness for that. The voice of reason at last

    Thats what we need. More targets. They help.

    Like the trusts don't know that they DON'T have sufficient volume.

    Funny thing about managers. They seem to develop a divinity complex.



    "4and lo the secretary of health spake saying "let none wait more than 18 weeks for that is an abomination in my sight 5 and lo it was so6 and light shone upon the faces of the workers and they were sore amazed. 7 and spake amoungst themselves saying "great is the wisdom of the secretary of health for he has shortened waits". And there was much rejoicing.

    8But darkness was upon the faces of those who dealt in feet9 and great was their ire10 and one among them spake saying "it is a crock of S**t and it stinketh."11 but the secretary turned his face away and heard him not 12 and Cheif execs taunted the workers in feet saying 13 "thou shalt prioritise and work smarter not harder so that the secretary may shine his light upon us 14 which, issueing forth from his a*se is great in our sight" 15 and lo there was much wailing and gnashing of teeth.

    Our director has told us that our waits must be less than 6 weeks:pigs:. :hammer::bang::butcher:

    You can say 18, you can say 6, you can call yourself sparky the rocket dog but it don't make you backside a jet engine. They'd know that if they had the brains God gave a C diff bacillus.

    Sorry. Bad day.
    Robert
     
  5. DTT

    DTT Well-Known Member

    Hi Robert

    :wacko::D:D:D

    Nice one

    cheers
    Derek;)
     
  6. twirly

    twirly Well-Known Member

    16& twirly did titter muchly @ image of rocket arsed dog. :D

    Sorry you had a bad day Robert, here lemme pass you a Robeer ----->:drinks
     
  7. DAVOhorn

    DAVOhorn Well-Known Member

    Hey Robert you may be onto something.

    Our lab rat colleagues must come up with something better than :

    MRSA VRSA MRSA C Difficile C Welshiae

    The above are all old hat now and we almost know how not to kill too many with them>:butcher:

    So we need a new mega nasty creepy crawlie to clear hospital beds once and for all.:butcher:

    We then revert to natural selection and survival of the fittest and bask in the glory of vacant hospital beds and short waiting lists. Yeeha .:drinks

    A by product would also be a reduction in house price4s for those still living as houses will be at glut status.:bash:

    Hang on the front door bell has rung and those kind men in white coats have come to take me away.

    They dont know that our local psychiatric unit has not opened due to there being no staff to run it.:p

    regards David
     
  8. davidh

    davidh Podiatry Arena Veteran

    It's on threads like this that I wish I still had an axe to grind with the NHS:butcher:.

    Was there ever a better opportunity to use these great smileys?
    :pigs:

    Cheers:drinks,

    David
     
  9. R.E.G

    R.E.G Active Member

    While you all laugh and joke about the NHS, no one is picking up on the encroachment of Age Concern into Podiatry.

    We all know 18 weeks is a joke. If you have an IGTN 2 days is excessive, if you have a broken down HD over a prominent 2nd PIPJ 2 days is excessive. If you are a newly diagnosed obese diabetic, so what it is your fault. Anyway your practice nurse can do the diabetic foot check cannot they?

    But Mr McCafferty has got it wrong. Age Concern are NOT proposing foot care services free at the point of use and who defines need.

    Age Concern are proposing a business, in which in exchange for Government money and in collusion with the NHS they will provide a unregulated unsupervised non professional 'low cost' alternative to HPC regulated private provision.

    I'm not laughing.

    Bob:(
     
  10. Hey Bob / Cassandra

    Your concern is noted. Again.

    From a point of pedantry somebody with a broken down HD or a diabetic with an infected OC does'nt have to wait 18 weeks. More like 18 hours. There is provision for rapid access for these patients (at least there is in my patch).

    The whole Encroachment of age concern thing is a valid concern but lets not turn it into something it is not. They are not proposing to take ulcerating diabetics, or even patients with corns away from us. Our local AC service even refers OX nails and anything slightly O/C'y back to us. They are not allowed to treat any DM or HR patients.

    The article is calling for more podiatry provision in the NHS not devolution of services to AC nurses. Thats a whole other thing.

    I am confident that i have asuaged your concern and that we can now let this issue drop.:pigs::rolleyes:

    Regards
    Robert
     
  11. George Brandy

    George Brandy Active Member

    Care to expand Robert?

    Just to be a little pedantic, there is no such thing as an Age Concern Nurse in relation to foot care. They are Age Concern volunteers.

    GB
     


  12. Fair enough. In my part of the world they call themselves footcare nurses. But if volunteers is the correct term...

    Regards
    Robert
     
  13. DTT

    DTT Well-Known Member

    Hi All

    Robert

    Do you know if there is any basic screening done to detect these conditions ??

    I know we are in a similar debate in another place but I thought it a valid point to bring up here.

    I screen for diabetes routinely and around 4 /5 a month go for followup bloods and referral to specialist pods in the diabetic clinics if required.

    If, as I believe we all should be are practicing "preventative podiatry" and early detection should these "volunteers be the ones that are in the front line ??


    Bob

    Agreed BUT ,the main reason this has happened is because Pods working in the NHS DON'T WANT TO DO THIS TYPE OF PATIENT :(

    It is they that continually carp on about how these Pt's waste their time etc etc etc . You only have to look at this and other forums to see it time and time again.

    Now if as a pod at the sharp end are going to tell managers at the blunt end how to save money you can hardly complain when it happens :bang:

    Cheers

    Derek;)
     
  14. andymiles

    andymiles Active Member

    bird flu, it's the new black(death)
     
  15. NewsBot

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    Age Concern have put out a new press release on this topic:
    Older people let down by NHS primary care services (03.10.08)
     
  16. DTT

    DTT Well-Known Member

    Hi All

    Age concern playing with figures again .....

    Average pensioner gets around £250 per week ( inc allowances)

    £30 :- 8 = £3.75 per week @ 8 weekly intervals.

    £30 :- 12 = £2.50 per week @ 12 weekly intervals

    And that is for a professional who is governed by the HPC ( with all the increased costs that incures) to manage these peoples feet and to keep them as safe as possible so their feet last them as long as they need them:bang:

    Sorry cant have that from age concern ask the hairdresser, aromatherapist ,reflexologist , massage thingy ( whichever flavour) , nail studio , etc and we will follow.

    Ask the government to give a tax break or allowance for treating them ?

    BUT

    NO

    age concerns answer is to put ??????????? qualified people in to "dooo feet"

    Righto

    You made the bed now lie on it !! and I will pick up ( as I do now) all those that are in pain , mistreated , abused and frankly being given a tenth rate service by some your organisations foot carers ( and have the paperwork to prove it)

    And BTW my initial consultation fee is £40 !!

    You get what you pay for :rolleyes:.

    Cheers
    Derek;)
     
    Last edited: Oct 6, 2008
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