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Gamesmanship In Cricket

Discussion in 'Break Room' started by DAVOhorn, Feb 17, 2008.

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  1. DAVOhorn

    DAVOhorn Well-Known Member


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    Dear All,

    Here we go again in the wonderful world of cricket.:bang:

    Remember the Symonds saga when India threatened to pull out unless the complaints of racism and the punishment were satisfactory to India or they would withdraw.

    So if you dont do what i want i wont play SO THERE YAHBOO SUCKS.

    No mention of legal action for damages.

    So today in the Aussie Sunday Telegraph 17022008 there is an article threatening Australia with Damages in the region of $2.3 milion if they do not tour Pakistan.

    Hmm seems the threat of Civil war is not enough to enable a cricket tour to be cancelled.:deadhorse:

    " There will be serious consequences because you just cant pull out of a committed tour when the host board is giving you assurances about security and so is the Government" Shukla said.:bash:

    Now believe it or not but the Aussie players have been HAARRUMPHING for months over this tour and the safety of themselves and fans should they be Dumb enough to go to a country facing civil unrest / war.:craig:

    Naturally Cricket Australia want the tour played in an alternative safe country but the pakistani's have said no. They want the TV money so sod everyones safety gimme the TV money.

    Now where are the Indian and Pakistani's favourite Umpires from ???:boxing:

    Oh yeah lets hold the test series in a Neutral country/ies say the West Indies.

    The world of cricket is in a mess because of money grubbing megalomaniacs and sportsmens safety seems to be secondary to TV RATINGS AND MONEY.

    OH well .:drinks

    regards David
     
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  2. twirly

    twirly Well-Known Member

    Hi DAVOhorn,

    Just out of interest I had a peep on the British consulates travel advice web site.



    Shortcut MenuCareers with the FCOCountry ProfilesForeign Embassies in the UKInternational PrioritiesLatest NewsLinksTravel AdviceUK Embassies OverseasUKvisasi-uk.com

    Still Current at: 17 February 2008
    Updated: 14 February 2008


    Pakistan


    This advice has been reviewed and reissued with an amendment to the Terrorism section (British Government policy on concessions to hostage takers) and Health, Avian Influenza section (two cases of H5N1 discovered in Karachi). The overall level of this advice has not changed.


    SUMMARY


    We advise against all travel to areas where there are reports of military or militant activity. This applies particularly to: northern and western Balochistan, including the Sui/Dera Bugti and Kohlu areas; the Federally Administered Tribal Areas, including Waziristan; Swat, North West Frontier Province (NWFP); and all border areas except for official crossing points. We also advise against using the rail network across the whole of Pakistan. See the Terrorism and Sectarian Violence and Local Travel sections of this advice for more details.


    We advise against all but essential travel to Northern Sindh and Southern Punjab, which remain particularly unsettled since the assassination of former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto. We also advise against all but essential travel to Quetta (Balochistan) and we advise against using bus services in the whole of Balochistan because of the unsettled security situation. See the Terrorism & Sectarian Violence section of this advice for more details.


    Political tensions related to parliamentary elections rescheduled for 18 February 2008 could give rise to an escalation of violence.You should avoid any demonstrations or large crowds of people. See the Safety and Security section of this advice for more details.


    If you are intending to travel to Pakistan, you should follow the developing situation in the news media and consult FCO travel advice regularly. You may wish to seek local advice on the latest situation from the Security Section of the British High Commission in Islamabad or the British Deputy High Commission in Karachi.


    There is a high threat from terrorism and sectarian violence throughout Pakistan. Since January 2007 there has been a series of attacks and suicide bombings targeted predominantly at the authorities but occasionally also at locations frequented by expatriates and foreign travellers. There is currently believed to be a heightened threat to Westerners in major cities. See the Terrorism & Sectarian Violence section of this advice for more details.


    Outbreaks of Avian Influenza (Bird Flu) in Pakistan have resulted in a small number of human fatalities. See the Health (Avian Influenza) section of this advice and Avian and Pandemic Influenza Factsheet for more details.


    The main type of incident for which British nationals required consular assistance in Pakistan in 2007 was to replace lost or stolen passports. However, assistance to victims of forced marriage or child abduction is also common. If you are concerned about either issue see: forced marriages and child abduction.


    We strongly recommend that you obtain comprehensive travel and medical insurance before travelling. You should check any exclusions, and ensure that your policy covers you for all the activities you want to undertake. See the General (Insurance) section of this advice and Travel Insurance for more details.


    SAFETY AND SECURITY


    Terrorism & Sectarian Violence

    There is a high threat from terrorism and sectarian violence throughout Pakistan. Since January 2007 there has been a series of attacks and suicide bombings targeted predominantly at the authorities but occasionally also at locations frequented by expatriates and foreign travellers.

    Although targets have been mostly military, there is reliable evidence that terrorists continue to target Western, including British, interests and individuals throughout Pakistan. These have included a suicide attack on the Marriott Hotel in Islamabad in January 2007 and an attempted bomb attack on Islamabad International Airport in February 2007. The Pakistani authorities have increased security throughout Pakistan due to the threat of further imminent attacks, including at international hotels in Islamabad. There is currently believed to be a heightened threat to Westerners in major cities.

    You should satisfy yourself in advance of standards of security at your chosen hotel, and for up-to-date advice you should contact the Security Section of the British High Commission.

    Political tensions related to parliamentary elections rescheduled for 18 February 2008 could give rise to an escalation of violence. You should avoid any demonstrations or large crowds of people, including groups of uniformed personnel.

    There has been a significant deterioration in the security situation across the whole country since July 2007 linked to ongoing military action in FATA and the North West Frontier Province against militants. Since then, more than 700 people have been killed in suicide bombings across Pakistan. Significant attacks in the last year have included:

    On 8 February 2008, a bomb at an election rally in Charsadda, NWFP killed at least 29 people.
    On 4 February 2008, a suicide bomber attacked a minibus carrying military personnel in the Rawalpindi cantonment area, killing at least 6 people.
    On 17 January 2008, a suicide bombing in the Kohati area of Peshawar killed at least 5 people.
    On 14 January 2008, a bomb outside a textile factory in the Quaidabad area of Karachi killed at least nine people.
    On 10 January 2008, a suicide bombing outside the High Court in Lahore killed 27 people, including 20 police.
    On 29 December 2007, a car bomb exploded in Mingora (Swat), killing at least five people.
    On 27 December 2007, former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto and at least 20 others were killed in a suicide bomb attack at a political rally organised by the Pakistan People’s Party in Rawalpindi.
    On 21 December 2007, at least 38 people were killed in a suicide bomb attack on a mosque near the city of Peshawar.
    On 19 October 2007, a bomb attack on a political procession welcoming Benazir Bhutto killed at least 140 in Karachi.
    In September – November 2007, at least 46 people were killed in five suicide bomb attacks in Rawalpindi.
    On 17 July 2007, a suicide bomb attack on a lawyers’ rally in Islamabad killed at least 16 people.
    The major cities are particularly vulnerable to indiscriminate bombing and other attacks, including kidnapping. You should be aware that the long-standing policy of the British Government is not to make substantive concessions to hostage takers. The British Government considers that paying ransoms and releasing prisoners increases the risk of further hostage taking.

    Owing to high levels of security at Western embassies, international organisations and international hotels, more vulnerable targets such as clubs, restaurants (including Western style fast food outlets), places of worship and schools are at risk. We advise travellers to avoid such locations. Previous bomb attacks have sometimes involved consecutive explosions.

    Since July 2007 there has been a number of bombings in and around Peshawar, targeting official premises and personnel, CD/DVD shops, barbers and girls’ schools. You should exercise caution if you intend to travel to Peshawar. If you still wish to do so, you should seek up-to-date advice from the BHC Islamabad or from the local authorities before travelling. We advise against all travel to areas where there are ongoing reports of military or militant activity. This applies particularly to: Waziristan, northern and western Balochistan including the Sui/Dera Bugti and Kohlu areas, and Swat (North West Frontier Province).

    We advise against road travel to the northern Areas. You should avoid travel by bus (as well as rail) in Balochistan. We advise against all but essential travel to Quetta because of the unsettled security situation there. If you still plan to travel to Quetta, you should contact the Security section of the British Deputy High Commission, Karachi (00 92 21 582 7000) in advance for current advice.

    There are intermittent surges in sectarian violence throughout Pakistan. Incidents often escalate quickly and have included murders and suicide bombings. Attacks have occurred in Karachi, Islamabad, Quetta, Gilgit, the FATA and the Northern Areas. The cities of central Punjab, as well as Quetta and Karachi, are at particular risk from Sunni-Shia violence. Visitors of recognisably Western origin should avoid the vicinity of mosques at busy prayer times, especially on Fridays. Travellers should avoid demonstrations or large crowds of people.

    For more information see the Security and General Tips and Risk of Terrorism when Travelling Overseas pages of the FCO website.

    Crime

    Beware of the risk of street crime and take personal security measures. Take particular care to safeguard your passport, bank cards, bags, laptops and mobiles, particularly when travelling by public transport and when walking in crowded areas. There is an active black market in forged and stolen passports. Credit card fraud is common.

    Criminal violence, including armed car-jacking, robbery, kidnap and murder, is common, especially in Karachi. Travellers have been offered drugged food and then robbed. You should be very careful about, and confident of, your personal security arrangements throughout your visit.

    For more general information see Victims of Crime Abroad.

    Political Situation

    Pakistan Country Profile

    Following the assassination of former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto at a political rally in Rawalpindi on 27 December 2007, violent unrest broke out in a number of cities across the country including the random stoning of cars, looting in Karachi where shoot-to-kill orders were issued to Rangers (paramilitary police), and police firing on crowds in Hyderabad. The situation is now generally calmer and life has returned to normal in major cities.

    Political tensions against the backdrop of Parliamentary elections due to take place on 18 February 2008 may give rise to a further escalation of violence. There has been violence during past election campaigns. Over 40 people were killed in political violence in May 2007 and at least 140 were murdered in the bomb attack on former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto and her supporters on 19 October 2007. Over 20 were killed during the fatal attack on Benazir Bhutto herself. The intensity of campaigning and associated risk of violence are likely to increase in the immediate run-up to the elections. You should avoid any demonstrations or large crowds of people, including groups of uniformed personnel. The situation in Sindh and Southern Punjab remains particularly unsettled. Travellers in these areas should exercise particular caution and keep a low profile.

    LOCAL TRAVEL

    If you have to travel to any of the regions listed below, you or your travel agent should contact the authorities in advance. They may arrange police protection as necessary and will advise whether you need a No Objection Certificate issued by the Pakistani Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

    You should seek updates on the local security situation from local police, or travel agencies before you travel.

    The Security sections of the High Commission in Islamabad (0092 51 201 2000) and the Deputy High Commission in Karachi (0092 21 582 7000) can also provide advice on the specific local security situation in those cities.

    Much of Balochistan, rural Sindh and the North West Frontier Province, including the Federally Administered Tribal Areas and Agencies, have a high incidence of lawlessness.

    Federally Administered Tribal Areas (FATA)

    We advise against all travel to the Federally Administered Tribal Areas.

    North West Frontier Province (NWFP)

    On 21 November 2007, the UN recalled to Islamabad the families of expatriate staff in NWFP, including Peshawar (but not Abbottabad and Mansehra). All aid workers in the area should remain in touch with local UN co-ordination officials and the Pakistani authorities for the latest security advice.

    We advise against all travel to Swat and Chitral because of the unsettled security situation and you are also advised to avoid all road travel to Gilgit and Chitral at this time for the same reason. We do not advise against road travel to Skardu, Hunza and beyond if you fly to Gilgit first, or travel to the Kalash Valley if you fly to Chitral first. If travelling on the Karakoram Highway towards Hunza you are advised to travel in daylight hours as the road can be narrow, with sudden precipitous drops.

    Northern Sindh and Southern Punjab

    We advise against all but essential travel to Northern Sindh and Southern Punjab, which remain particularly unsettled since the assassination of former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto.

    Border areas

    Except for official border crossing-points, the authorities prohibit travel by foreigners within 10 miles of Pakistan’s international borders and the Kashmir Line of Control, and within 30 miles of the Afghan border in the Northern Areas.

    Rail Travel

    We advise against using the railway network at present. Since the assassination of former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto at a political rally in Rawalpindi on 27 December 2007 there have been a number of attacks on railway stations, severely affecting the operation of rail services. Nationalist militants also regularly plant bombs on the rail network in Balochistan. There have also been a number of derailments. On 19 December 2007 the Karachi-Lahore express train was derailed in the southern Sindh province killing 38 people and injuring 200 more. On 18 February 2007, a series of bombs exploded on a train bound from India to Pakistan. Previously, in July 2005 and January/February 2006 there were serious rail accidents, with many fatalities, in Sindh and in Punjab as a result of sabotage.

    Road Travel

    Take particular care on long road journeys and when travelling cross-country. Local driving standards are erratic, especially at night, road conditions are poor and there is a risk of car-jacking. Following the assassination of former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto, there have been a number of reports of highway robbery in Sindh and Southern Punjab

    When driving, it is advisable to lock all doors and keep the windows up. Use well-travelled, well-lit routes where possible. We recommend you do not purchase anything from street vendors or have contact with beggars while travelling by car.

    For more general information see Driving Abroad

    Air Travel

    Since 1 September 2006, all passengers on domestic flights must present one of the following forms of photo ID at check-in: National Identity card (computerised), passport, driving licence, photo credit card, or school ID card (for children under the age of 18). This must be an original document, and must bear the same name as on your ticket.


    LOCAL LAWS AND CUSTOMS


    Local laws reflect the fact that Pakistan is a Muslim country. You should respect local traditions, customs, laws and religions at all times and be aware of your actions to ensure that they do not offend other cultures or religious beliefs, especially during the holy month of Ramadan or if you intend to visit religious areas. For more general information see: Travelling During Ramadan

    You should dress modestly at all times. Men and women should cover their shoulders and legs when in public. Women should cover their heads when entering mosques or other holy places, and when travelling in more rural areas.

    If you or your father were born in Pakistan, you might be considered a Pakistani national by the authorities, even if you do not hold a Pakistani passport, and the British government might be prevented from providing the full range of consular assistance.

    Consular assistance in remote areas might be delayed.

    Importing alcohol and pork products is illegal. Homosexuality and co-habitation by an unmarried couple are illegal. Possession of even small quantities of illegal drugs can lead to imprisonment. Drug smuggling can attract the death penalty.

    Do not take photographs at military establishments, airports or any infrastructure, including bridges and dams or from aircraft. In the past British nationals have been arrested on suspicion of ‘spying’. You should seek prior permission from any official present if you are photographing these types of places, especially in border areas.

    For more general advice for different types of travellers: Travel Checklists


    ENTRY REQUIREMENTS


    Visas

    If you are travelling to Pakistan on a British passport, you require a visa. You should be aware that visa violations can be treated as a criminal offence and could result in a fine or a short detention.

    Journalists’ visas often have additional travel restrictions, which should be observed.

    For further information consult: Pakistani representation in the UK, your local Pakistani Consulate, or the Pakistan High Commission or Embassy in the country of your residence.

    British nationals travelling on a Pakistani passport will need the appropriate visa to re-enter the UK. Children need their own passports.

    Passport validity

    Your passport has to be valid for a minimum of six months.

    Registration

    There is a legal requirement for some foreign nationals to register with the Police after arrival in Pakistan. All foreign nationals are required to register when visiting the Northern Areas. If you are stopped by the Police for any reason, and you have not registered then you are likely to be arrested. If in doubt, you should check with the Pakistani representation in the UK before travelling to see if this affects you.

    Travelling with children

    A parent or other adults travelling alone with children should be aware that the immigration authorities demand documentary evidence of parental responsibility before allowing the children to leave the country, especially those of Pakistani origin.


    HEALTH


    Outside the major cities there are few hospitals of UK standards.

    Malaria and Mosquito-borne Dengue fever exist in coastal and low-lying parts of Pakistan.

    You should seek medical advice before travelling and ensure that all appropriate vaccinations are up to date. NHS Direct (0845 46 47) can provide you with advice on the vaccination requirements for Pakistan.

    For further information on endemic diseases, like malaria, health outbreaks and vaccination requirements for Pakistan you should check the websites of NaTHNaC and NHS Scotland's Fit For Travel.

    For more general health information see: Travel Health

    Avian Influenza (Bird Flu)

    Multiple poultry outbreaks of H5N1 influenza have been occurring in Pakistan since 2006. In 2007 there have also been outbreaks in wild birds. Most outbreaks discovered have been in North West Frontier Province, in Abbottabad and Mansehra. Two cases of H5N1 have recently been identified in farms in Karachi, in Gadap Town within Malir district. Cases of infection in wild birds have been identified in the Islamabad Capital Territory. In November 2007 there was one confirmed human death in the Peshawar area.

    Since the end of 2003, a number of human deaths have also occurred in Azerbaijan, Cambodia, China, Egypt, Indonesia, Iraq, Laos, Nigeria, Thailand, Turkey and Vietnam.

    The risk from Avian Influenza is believed to be low provided you avoid visiting live animal markets, poultry farms and other places where you may come into close contact with domestic, caged or wild birds; and ensure poultry and egg dishes are thoroughly cooked.

    The World Health Organisation (WHO) has warned of the possibility that the Avian Influenza outbreaks could lead at some point to a human flu pandemic, if the virus mutates to a form easily transmissible between people.

    British nationals living longer term in an Avian-Influenza affected region should take personal responsibility for their own safety in the event of a future pandemic, including considering their access to adequate healthcare and ensuring travel documents are up to date.

    You should read this advice in conjunction with the Avian and Pandemic Influenza Factsheet, which gives more detailed advice and information.

    NATURAL DISASTERS

    On 8 October 2005, a catastrophic earthquake with its epicentre near Muzaffarabad in Pakistani-administered Kashmir caused widespread damage and loss of life. Infrastructure and services in northern Pakistani-administered Kashmir and surrounding areas were severely disrupted. The main devastation was in the towns of Muzaffarabad, Rawalakot, Bagh, Balakot and Mansehra but the affected areas are now mostly operational again.

    Earth tremors are common and mountainous areas experience floods and landslides.


    GENERAL


    Insurance

    We strongly recommend that you obtain comprehensive travel and medical insurance before travelling, including cover for medical repatriation costs. You should check any exclusions, and that your policy covers you for all the activities you want to undertake. Please see: Travel Insurance.

    If things do go wrong when you are overseas then this is: What We Can Do To Help.

    Registering with the British High Commission

    All British nationals visiting or resident in Pakistan should register with the British Consular Sections of the British High Commission in Islamabad or the Deputy High Commission in Karachi: www.britishhighcommission.gov.uk/pakistan

    Identification

    You should carry a photocopy of the data page and Pakistani visa from your passport at all times, plus copies of other important travel documents. These should be kept separately from the originals, and copies left with friends or relatives in the UK.

    Forced marriage and child abductions

    Much of our Consular assistance is provided to victims of forced marriage or child abduction. If you are concerned about a forced marriage or child abduction, please see our separate guidance using the following links on the FCO website:

    forced marriages

    child abduction

    Purchasing property

    Among British nationals of Pakistani origin we are often asked for assistance with land or property ownership disputes. You should consider taking legal advice before entering into any agreement over the ownership or use of property or other assets. The British High Commission cannot intervene in these matters.

    CONTACT DETAILS

    Islamabad

    Address: British High Commission
    Diplomatic Enclave
    Ramna 5
    P O Box 1122
    Islamabad

    Telephone: 00 92 51 201 2000 (Main Switchboard)

    Facsimile: 00 92 51 282 3439 (Management Section Fax)
    00 92 51 282 4728 (Visa Section Fax)
    00 92 51 282 9355 (Visa Section Fax)
    00 92 51 201 2031 (Trade and Investment Fax)
    00 92 51 201 2033 (Media & Public Affairs Fax)
    00 92 51 201 2019 (Consular Section Fax)

    Email: visqry.Islamabad@fco.gov.uk (Visa)
    Cons.Islamabad@fco.gov.uk (Consular)
    bhc-ukti@dsl.net.pk (Trad and Investment Fax)
    bhcmedia@dsl.net.pk (Media and Public Affairs Section)

    Office Hours:
    GMT:
    Mon-Thurs: 0300-1115; Fri: 0300-0800
    Local Time:
    Mon-Thurs: 0800-1615; Fri: 0800-1300

    Website: www.britainonline.org.uk

    Karachi

    Address: British Deputy High Commission
    Shahrah-e-Iran
    Clifton
    Karachi 75600
    Pakistan

    Telephone: 00 92 21 582 7000
    Facsimile: 00 92 21 582 7005 (Trade & Investment)
    00 92 21 582 7012 (Consular)

    Email: Consularenquiries.Karachi@fco.gov.uk (Consular)
    Tradeuk@cyber.net.pk (Trade & Investment)

    Website: www.britainonline.org.pk



    Just thought the information maybe of use to anyone purchasing travel insurance before their trip.

    Makes for a scarey read.

    :empathy:

    Regards,
     
  3. W J Liggins

    W J Liggins Well-Known Member

    In this instance Dave, I quite agree, especially with your last paragraph. However, although the cricketers' safety might be guaranteed by the authorities, what of that of the Aussie fans? This is particularly relevant in the light of the British government's advice, detailed by Twirly, which I bet is echoed by the Aussie government's to their citizens.

    Yours sportingly

    Bill
     
  4. DAVOhorn

    DAVOhorn Well-Known Member

    Thanks for that info Twirly.

    A bit of a worry really.:confused:

    I could not come up with one reason to visit Pakistan.

    You have given me several to deter any thought of visiting.

    So i feel sorry for the Aussies and any other team who have contracted to play there and would wish to withdraw from the contract.

    Pakistan should see sense and cancel the tour for the sake of the potential guests in their country.

    It would sadly be a great propaganda coup for the trrorists to murder and maim cricketers and their fans and supporters.

    Also this would be an enormous humiliation for the Pakistani Govt and cricketing authorities if their assurances are proven to be woefully mistaken.

    One death in Sport is not acceptable just to make a point.

    regards David:drinks
     
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