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Medihoney.

Discussion in 'General Issues and Discussion Forum' started by C Bain, Mar 22, 2005.

  1. C Bain

    C Bain Active Member


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    Hi All,

    The Australian Bee population is about to triple in size I think???

    Does anyone use or have experience of the new Medihoney just been made available through NHS Logistics Authority, and I assume to private practise, too, for wounds! Or is this directed at our nurses bearing in mind they have the main care for treating wounds on legs in general practise!

    I have experience in the use of English honey but the Australian Bees seem to have a much better, (stronger?), honey for wound healing!

    Regards,

    Colin.
     
    Last edited: Mar 23, 2005
  2. Tuckersm

    Tuckersm Well-Known Member

    Colin,

    we don't use medihoney here, partly due to cost, and partly due to lack of evidence in the treatment of diabetic foot wounds.

    We did use some samples, and did find it a bit messy, but no patient issues. Its best use would be for the chronic infected type wounds, but its benefits over silver dressings and Iodosorb are not established

    The medihoney is a Manuka honey, from the Manuka bush, a native NZ plant, but also grown in Australia. You can spread it on your toast, but it is a bit bitter.

    New Zealands Waikato University has a honey institute which did most of the R&D around honey as an antiseptic and wound dressing.

    More info from

    http://bio.waikato.ac.nz/honey/

    http://www.medihoney.com/
     
  3. C Bain

    C Bain Active Member

    Hi Stephen,

    Thank you for that information on Manuku honey. Strange that in all the papers I have read on it over the past eighteen months none have mentioned that it's from a bush not a bee?

    Agreed about the link with diabetic foot wounds, (Another possible unknown at this time?). My information comes mainly from a journal I receive on wound care. It is directed at nurses and in some cases written by them in the UK dealing with wounds on legs and a few other embarrassing places!

    Free access to the product has been zero on the open market until possibly now over here, ref. application.

    Regards,

    Colin.

    P.S. Well I suppose if Australia can have hopping kangaroos, New Zealand can have flying honey bushes!
     
  4. Tash Duncan

    Tash Duncan Member

    hi guys i have been searching the web for articles on manuka honey and its use on diabetic wounds... i know it works but just need some evidence its ok to use on dm patients Cheers tash
     
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  6. trudi powell

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    I try it on patients who want it to work and give them a few weeks for any improvement, but unfortunately I haven't had any good results so far. I'd like it to be effective, as it is a natural product, but I find it only works on patients who are going to heal regardless of which product you use.

    Have you had better results ??
     
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  9. Leigh

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    Hi Everyone,
    I have used Manuka Honey on some patients with minor skin lesions with mixed success. It seems to work well on some. I used a medicinal quality dressing from a company called "Advancis". Their info notes : Whilst many claims are being made for the therapeutic benefits of active Leptospermum Honey's (eg Manuka and Jelly Bush) these and other varieties of honey are still awaiting clinical evaluation to determine the full extent of the therapeutic benefits.
    Also...a note on DM patients.: although there has been no reported incidence of increased levels of sugar in the bloodstream due to the use of honey in wounds, it is advisable to monitor the blood sugar levels of diabetic patients.
    I used "Activon tulle"....which is a non-adherent wound dressing impregnated with Manuka honey.
    You can check out the company website at
    www.advancis.co.uk
    regards,
    Leigh
     
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    Press Release:
    UW STUDY TESTS TOPICAL HONEY AS A TREATMENT FOR DIABETIC ULCERS
    5/2/2007
     
  11. nigel t

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    If Hydrogen Peroxide is the pharmaceutical compound that is produced by medihoney, why not use Crystacide. I use it regularly when infection presents and am quite impressed at how effective it is.
     
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  13. Leigh Shaw

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    After attending an all day lecture by Dr Molan on the benefits of honey I have trialled it in the clinic on both diabetic and non diabetic patients with foot ulceration.
    The product is Apinate from Comvita (NZ), it is an alginate impregnated dressing so has some exudate absorbency properties as well as the antimicrobial.
    Patients have in general been happy with application only a few complaining that it stung. I feel it has limited application on planter ulceration as it tends to move around too much even under secondary dressings and padding, have also trialled under TCC, once again too much movement resulting in shear.
    Seems to work best on leg wounds, will remove slough resonably well and is another weapon in the arsonal. Given the choice of silver or honey I would still choice silver .
     
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    The latest OWM has the full text of this:
    Honey and Contemporary Wound Care: An Overview
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    ScienceDaily are reporting:
    Treating Venous Leg Ulcers With Honey Dressings Unlikely To Help Healing
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  16. Elizabeth

    Elizabeth Member

    Leptospermum honey seems to be the best for antibacterial proiperties - has been found to be effective in healing MRSA wounds
     
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    Derma Sciences Announces Clinical Poster on Use of MEDIHONEY(TM) Wound & Burn Dressings Wins First Place Award at APWCA
     
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    Safety and efficacy of a new honey ointment on diabetic foot ulcers: a prospective pilot study.
    Abdelatif M, Yakoot M, Etmaan M.
    J Wound Care. 2008 Mar;17(3):108-10.
     
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    New Study Shows the Use of MEDIHONEY(TM) Wound & Burn Dressing is Associated With Reduction in Wound Size
    International Wound Journal article cites pH modulation as a key method of action
     
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    Derma Sciences Receives FDA Clearance to Sell MEDIHONEY(TM) Over the Counter
    Products stocked in nationwide pharmacies will provide easy access for consumers
     
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    A comparative study between honey and povidone iodine as dressing solution for Wagner type II diabetic foot ulcers.
    Shukrimi A, Sulaiman AR, Halim AY, Azril A.
    Med J Malaysia. 2008 Mar;63(1):44-6.
     
  23. Blaine M

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    I am a community nurse as well as an advance foot care nurse. I have been using Medihoney for a year now. It is one of the best wound care products I have used in years. The Medihoney that we use comes from New Zealand as indicated on the package. I Have had great success in using it on many types of ulcers and burns. If you have the opportunity to use this product I highly recommend you give it a try
     
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    A patent has just been granted for this:
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    The clinical and cost effectiveness of bee honey dressing in the treatment of diabetic foot ulcers.
    Moghazy AM, Shams ME, Adly OA, Abbas AH, El-Badawy MA, Elsakka DM, Hassan SA, Abdelmohsen WS, Ali OS, Mohamed BA.
    Diabetes Res Clin Pract. 2010 Jun 18. [Epub ahead of print]
     
  26. jasper1966

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    Have used medical grade honey ointment with good results on both diabetes and or ischaemic ulcers as part of a mulit factorial/ disciplinary approach to the problems part of my NHS podiatry role. Any suggestions for dressing materials to be used secondary to honey ointment.Usually (dependent on location, ulcer specifics, patient preference and of course availabilty /cost) - i go for Allevyn pads or melolin. Any other suggestions as i am keen to improve this facet of care if i can.
     
  27. Tkemp

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    I have used Medihoney on an ulcer in a vascular impaired client (1st P/MTJ)
    Nothing else had made any improvement.
    Yes, it is a messier dressing choice and patient scepticism need be dealt with, but the ulcer is now half its size and the very real risk of amputation is no-longer an issue.
    I use a secondary dressing of non-adhesive allevyn to cushion and absorb exudate. Then i apply opsite, to contain any leakages.
    Off-loading of course with SCF or Swan foam over this.

    In this particular client i would not return to silver. However in other clients silver, bactigras, iodosorb/inadine are just as effective.

    Just make sure you check the client is not allergic to bee stings before you use it.

    Cheers
     
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  29. SarahR

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    We are using medihoney for nail surgery phenol site treatment as well as wounds.

    I have noticed a dramatic decrease in time to healing (3-4 vs 5-6) compared to Fucidin cream or polysporin etc.

    One client told me it does attract bees.

    Sarah
     
  30. sadders

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    My beehive produced no honey this year :confused:
     
  31. fishpod

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    if you read the evidence then medihoney is a bit of a waste of time why put it on wounds from nail surgery inadine is far cheaper and more successful if its not broke dont fix it medihoney is meant for use on recalctrant chronic ulcers not small acute wounds and even in these wounds it has no real advantages.
     
  32. I have not used it as an ulcer treatment but have advised Medihoney Excema Cream for a patent with psoriasis that had good results for several months. I have also been asked by many clients if they should use Medihoney as a topical wound dressing for cuts/abraisions that occur at home. The one thing I have learnt is to advise them that if they wish to use it they must buy the medical preparation from the chemist - many were thinking they could just use the regular Manuka honey from the health food store or supermarket.
     
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    Manuka honey-impregnated dressings in the treatment of neuropathic diabetic foot ulcers.
    Kamaratos AV, Tzirogiannis KN, Iraklianou SA, Panoutsopoulos GI, Kanellos IE, Melidonis AI.
    Int Wound J. 2012 Sep 18.
     
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    Natural honey as an adjunctive alternative in the management of diabetic foot ulcers
    Mohamed, H; Abu Salma, M; Allenjawi, B; Barakat, N; Gouda, Z; Abdi, S; Mohamed
    Journal of the Australian Wound Management Association; Volume 20 Issue 4 (November 2012)
     
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    The Effect of New Zealand Kanuka, Manuka and Clover Honeys on Bacterial Growth Dynamics and Cellular Morphology Varies According to the Species
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    PLoS ONE 8(2): e55898. doi:10.1371/journal.pone.0055898
     
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    Honey as a topical treatment for wounds.
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  38. Tracy.gill

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    Back to Honey... It has proved throughout time to aid healing and you don't need an expensive honey product, just use normal honey bought from a Bee Keeper or outlet selling locally produced honey as this unadulterated honey works just as well as Manuka or the expensive pharmaceutical types. I know as a Bee Keeper myself the shop bought or industrial produced mass honey is boiled to adhere to EEC rules which totally destroys the medicinal properties and leaves it as sugar syrup which is useless. Bee keepers extract honey direct from the hive and store/pot it in clean sterilised jars ready for use. We have to label it correctly, put a use by date - utterly ridiculous as honey lasts indefinitely (Honey was found in Egyption tombs and still useable!) I regularly use it on ingrown nail sulci, ulcers and infections and as post op dressing for PNA/TNA. many uses and inexpensive
     
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    Honey based therapy for the management of a recalcitrant diabetic foot ulcer.
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