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Stretching: The Truth.

Discussion in 'Biomechanics, Sports and Foot orthoses' started by Sicknote, Jan 10, 2012.

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  1. Sicknote

    Sicknote Active Member


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    New York Times
    November 2, 2008
    Phys Ed
    Stretching: The Truth.

    By GRETCHEN REYNOLDS

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/02/sports/playmagazine/112pewarm.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

     
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  3. BEN-HUR

    BEN-HUR Well-Known Member

  4. Tkemp

    Tkemp Active Member

    Those poor rabbits!! That's horrid!
     
  5. Griff

    Griff Moderator

    Here's some more up to date research regarding stretching
    (for those who prefer their science from peer reviewed journals rather that newspapers...)
     
  6. AlexDP

    AlexDP Member

    There is more to stretching than this article suggest. Does it temporarily weaken or neurologically inhibite the muscle? Maybe yes. However sometimes that's a result you actually want to achieve. I'll take myself as an example:

    I have had issues with properly activating my gluteus muscles which led to knee pain, more specifically patellofemoral pain. I've noticed that when I stretch my quads and hamstrings prior to exercise, the glutes are more active. The knee pain is less. I've combined this with a strengthening regime for the glutes consisting of deadlifts and bulgarian deadlifts (not romanian) and the pain is now gone. In some cases weakening or shutting down a muscle isn't all that bad.
     
  7. Sicknote

    Sicknote Active Member

    It seems we are just stretching tendons and ligaments.

    Latest research shows that muscles are like sliding filaments. They contract at certain points based on neural impusles and feeback. The contraction almost can be described as a velcro attachment. The better the contraction, the more velcro surface area is attached. I'm simplifying what actually takes place...but when we stretch a muscle...what is actually moving? We are probably stretching ligament and tendons and "velcro" attachments. When we stretch a muscle...we are introducing stress to the body and temporarily making muscles weaker or another way of stating it...decreasing the ability of the muscle to respond to a stimulus.
     
  8. The above post by Sicknote is a plagiarism, a straight cut and paste from here:
    http://www.musclesymmetry.com/?p=93

    Ashamed? You should be.

    Moreover, its more than a little insulting to the professional members of this forum. I think we get sliding filament theory Sicknote since this "latest research" has been around since 1954 and is pretty much taught to O level biology students, never mind undergraduate podiatrists...

    "It was independently developed by Andrew F. Huxley and Rolf Niedergerke and by Hugh Huxley and Jean Hanson in 1954."- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sliding_filament_model

    :morning: physiology 101 :bash::bang:

    Time to remove the non-professionals from this forum?
     
  9. David Wedemeyer

    David Wedemeyer Well-Known Member


    I vote Aye!
     
  10. Sicknote

    Sicknote Active Member

  11. What an ignoranus you are.
     
  12. blinda

    blinda MVP

    Yes please.
     
  13. Remove the non-medical professionals....the attorneys, the IBM coffee-gofers, etc...would certainly improve things here on Podiatry Arena.
     
  14. David Wedemeyer

    David Wedemeyer Well-Known Member

    Apparently Sicknote has no educational background at all. "Reething", really?

    When I initially found this board I was excited to find a community of respected podiatrists & other professionals with a strong background in biomechanics, science, common sense etc. PA is still that for me but another element has "seethed" its way into these discussions.

    We have been diverted by non allied professionals, those with an agenda, salesman, sycophants who believe everything they read on the internet and those suffering tertiary syphilis of scientific understanding, common sense and reason. :bang:
     
  15. Nice work.
     
  16. David Wedemeyer

    David Wedemeyer Well-Known Member

    Thank you Simon. I attribute that mornings verbal acuity to a very inspired cup of coffee with two shots of espresso dumped in. :D Legal crack really.

    I'm sure I'm only saying what many of us are thinking right now.

    Regards,
     
  17. blinda

    blinda MVP

    Agreed 100%. This other element is close to ruining the Arena. The general tone here has changed and I`ve noted that some valued posters are not engaging as previously. IMO, non- professional, insulting posters should be treated with the same contempt as the usual spammers and not be permitted to interact on the forum.
     
  18. BEN-HUR

    BEN-HUR Well-Known Member

    Agree. Relating to this... Pod Arena has also become a less conducive environment for sharing professional opinion & subsequently an effective learning environment.

    Scientific, podiatric, biomechanical inquiry/enlightenment & thus potential innovation potentially is being quashed, for the sake of outdated philosophical preferences (unsubstantiated via empirical science &/or laws of logic/reason) along with unprofessional conduct & overinflated egos.

    However, what can be confusing is that there can be a grey line between a valid opinion/idea & an invalid opinion/idea relating to the subject matter. At one point in time some of today's established ideas/theories were once speculation... even considered wild speculation for their time... :sinking:
     
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