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Ethics of moving Private Practice

Discussion in 'General Issues and Discussion Forum' started by isatfoot, Jun 15, 2011.

  1. isatfoot

    isatfoot Active Member


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    Can anyone please help?
    Im in private practice at the moment and renting a room at a physiotherpy clinic.
    I have found a cheaper premises to let , its only 150m round the corner from the physiotherapists clinic.
    She doesnt want me to open my clinic there because of ethical issues , she still wants to have a Pod at her clinic.
    How can I work around does?
    Is this allowed .
    I have an established practice.
    The Physio had a Pod before me but it was only part time.
    The Physio hasnt got anyone at the moment.

    Would appreciate any replies in the matter.

    Thank you
    Hassan
     
  2. LuckyLisfranc

    LuckyLisfranc Well-Known Member

    Sounds like a bit of extortion to me...

    Where are her ethics in not supporting your move?

    Unless you are proposing to move into a drug lab, or other such illegal premises, it would be hard to justify this as unethical. Mind you, if you are moving into the back room of a beautician, its hardly a professional image.

    Why not use it as a bargaining tool? If she wants you to stay, get her to match the rent!

    Its YOUR business, make decisions based on what is best for YOU.
    LL
     
  3. Lab Guy

    Lab Guy Well-Known Member

    You should stay if she referred you patients and helped to build your practice. If she did not help you and you do not have a lease then your under no obligation.

    Steven
     
  4. Boots n all

    Boots n all Well-Known Member

    You said "I have found a cheaper premises to let.."
    Then l like what LuckyLizfranc said
    "Why not use it as a bargaining tool? If she wants you to stay, get her to match the rent!"

    What if the physio puts in another pod the day you leave, what if you lost all that physio referral business, would your business still survive?

    Or is there another reason for you wanting to move?

    Questions only you can answer:empathy:
     
  5. isatfoot

    isatfoot Active Member

    Hi ,

    Thanks for all the replies.
    I have spken to her but she cant match the rental.
    She is not willing to bring the rental down.
    I dont need her beacuse I get about 1% of referal from her.
    Most of my pateints come from word of mouth.

    Hassan
     
  6. Unless you signed a contract that says you can´t move within a certain radius of the clinic then you can move next door if you want to.
     
  7. isatfoot

    isatfoot Active Member

    Hi , Thanks Mark ,

    All I have signed is a tennacy agreement and it does not state anything like that .Its just simple agreement about notice periods etc.
    Thanks
     
  8. Paul Bowles

    Paul Bowles Well-Known Member

    Even if they had signed a contract and "distance" is stipulated within it, the contract is not worth the paper its written on.
     
  9. isatfoot

    isatfoot Active Member

    Hi ,

    Thanks .
    How do I go about Giving her notice and will there be any impications in the future as a Pod in the uk.
     
  10. I know but then the lawyers have to get involved and they just cost money
     
  11. isatfoot

    isatfoot Active Member

    I have had a lawyer involved as he says she does not have any grounds to stand on.
     
  12. Paul Bowles

    Paul Bowles Well-Known Member

    Let them get the lawyer Mike - you dont need one :D
     
  13. Ian Drakard

    Ian Drakard Active Member

    These clauses are notoriously hard to enforce in the UK or anywhere as Paul says- and they have to be 'reasonable' both in terms of prescribed distance and time if anybody wanted to pay enough money to take it to court.

    I think as a professional though it does come down to ethics and on that basis what your agreement was.

    If you were working as part of that practice as an associate, moving 150m down the road and taking the patients doesn't sound too ethical.

    If it was effectively renting the clinic space only to run your own practice there is nothing wrong with that and it's her problem for not thinking about what she wanted from the arrangement
     
  14. isatfoot

    isatfoot Active Member

    Thanks for that.
    I sent hpc an email as well and they say that they dont deal with proffesionals moving their practices and I should contact citzens advice bureau.
    Wonder if they could be of any help.
    Why is it so complicated to move your practice if you are thinking of your future of your patients and your practice.
    HPC say I should get help from the Society.
    Who can I contact to clarify and make sure that it does not go on for too long.
    Does anyone have any ideas.

    Thank you
     
  15. Just move and move on be happy :drinks
     
  16. RobinP

    RobinP Well-Known Member

    :good:
     
  17. isatfoot

    isatfoot Active Member

    Hi ,

    Thanks Mark for the strong advice.
    Makes me feel better.
     
  18. PS it´s Mike
     
  19. isatfoot

    isatfoot Active Member

    Hi

    Sorry Mike.
     
  20. blinda

    blinda MVP

  21. cornmerchant

    cornmerchant Well-Known Member

    Isatfoot

    I can see no problem in just moving! Physio is completely different discipline so where does the question of ethics come in? Give notice and go- don't make a big deal of it. Sounds like you will be better away from her anyway, and if she gets another pod it will be good competition. If she doesn't refer much work your way she won't be doing any better for the next pod she rents to.

    All the best
    CM
     
  22. Griff

    Griff Moderator

    Hassan,

    How on earth can you be working within a Physiotherapy practice and only get 1% of your referrals from the Physiotherapist???
     
  23. Ian Drakard

    Ian Drakard Active Member

    :good:
     
  24. RobinP

    RobinP Well-Known Member

    Not doing biomechanics?
     
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