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Podiatry in Italy

Discussion in 'General Issues and Discussion Forum' started by Micco, Jul 28, 2008.

  1. Micco

    Micco Member


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    Hello everyone,

    I'm graduating at the end of the year from LaTrobe University, Melbourne, Australia. I have plans to work through 2009 and half of 2010 and then spend 12months overseas.

    I am considering settling in Italy for a period of time but am not sure if my qualification is recognised in Italy. I would like to know if this is possible? Does anyone have any experience working as a podiatrist in Italy? Is it difficult to find work?

    Could anyone give me a little more information regarding working overseas or possibly point me in the right direction.

    Hope to hear from someone...;)

    Micco.
     
  2. Heather J Bassett

    Heather J Bassett Well-Known Member

    :welcome::welcome: Hi welcome to Pod Arena, sorry I can not help out. Unfortunaterly I don't think we have too many links with Italy, but hopefullly someone may come up wioth some assistance.
    Good Luck with your career
    cheers
     
  3. Dannii

    Dannii Member

    Horoo,

    Contact the Australian Podiatry Council http://www.apodc.com.au/index.shtml and they will be able to provide information regarding what countries you can work in. Don't forget you need to meet language requirements. Podiatry is recognised in France but my french is not the ebst so I would not meet the language standards.
     
  4. Admin2

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  5. LauraCG

    LauraCG Member

    I was just wondering how you were going on news about working in Italy because I am in the same situation. Im having a bit of trouble finding out whether or not we are entitled. I hope your search is going well.
     
  6. laurenswaha11

    laurenswaha11 Member

    I hope you are having some good results with your research...please let us know where you get the information about other countries when you find it. I am curious as to what parts of Asia and Europe are in need of podiatry.
     
  7. Micco

    Micco Member

    Still struggling at this stage, but I just spent a month in Italy on holiday and may have some contacts. I will keep looking into this but so far I think the language barrier is the main concern.
     
  8. javier

    javier Senior Member

    Although I am not Italian, I have meet fellow Italian podiatrists in different professional meetings. Italian and Spanish podiatrists have strong bonds through the Association Européenne des Podologues (AEP).

    Podiatry is a university diploma in Italy like Uk BSch Podiatry. Practice is private and it is mainly focused on conservative treatments. You can address to Associazione Italiana di Podologia for further information.
     
  9. Atlas

    Atlas Well-Known Member

    Italy is the country where they actually laugh at you when you put on a seat belt! So you tentatively refrain from wearing it, as 4 others in the car aren't..and your'e squashed in the Fiat anyway...and couldnt' reach it if you tried.

    To get to a night club on time... they drive at 100 mph, cut corners on the wrong side of the road. The seat belt looks quite good at this time.:mad:


    The point of the story is that my guess is that podiatry in Italy is laid back. Maybe sterilizing is done in a Miele dishwasher on cold cycle without detergent.:rolleyes: Maybe to save the environment, scalpel blades are re-used.:wacko: But the gowns and glasses are probably Versace.:cool:


    Ron
    Physiotherapist (Masters) & Podiatrist
     
  10. javier

    javier Senior Member

    As I have said above, I am not Italian, but I can not stand short-minded comments based on stereotypes that attack professional conduct from fellow colleagues. Ron, you can address your personal thoughts to the people who is trying to knock down Italian podiatrists efforts to improve their academic knowledge and to broad their scope of practice. Before making such comments in a public forum, perhaps you should start to know a little more about Podiatry in Italy, you can start to visit Associazione Italiana di Podologia and check their continuing education programs. Oh! It is in Italian! I forgot you are not able to speak more languages than English.
     
  11. Atlas

    Atlas Well-Known Member

    Javier, get off your politically correct high horse.

    My mother was italian and born in the village of San Marco. I cannot stand 'racism'.

    All I asked for was some small licence at generalisation, and the use of stereotypes to come to the conclusion of a GUESS in jest. Do you want me to use more smile faces???

    My quote was..."The point of the story is that my guess is that podiatry in Italy is laid back"


    And I do speak italian....capisce? So if I erred in jesticular generalisation and stereotypical use, you erred in incorrect assumption.




    Ron
    Physiotherapist (Masters) & Podiatrist & 50% Italian origin
     
  12. javier

    javier Senior Member

    Compared to? Italian podiatry industry manufactures an awesome equipment for podiatry surgeries (http://www.smdmed.com); but on the other hand their biomechanics core knowledge is based on Root biomechanics (like all podiatry schools worldwide) and they have serious problems related to scope of practice (mainly surgery).

    Are Australian podiatry organizations (professional bodies and universities) helping to develop podiatry in other countries? 25 years ago, faculty members from NYCPM helped Spanish podiatrists to develop a strong surgery program. This relationship still continues and there are surgery programs shared between NYCPM and Spanish Podiatry Schools. Spanish podiatry have helped to improve or establish podiatry programs in Portugal, Brazil and Cuba. And we have close contact with Italy, France and Argentina mainly.

    If you think Italian podiatry is laid back compared to Australia and you have an Italian origin, you could lobby with Australian podiatry organizations to create shared programs.
     
  13. While not the same country when I moved to Sweden from Oz, I had to contact a government orgainisation. Them not an association said it was ok to begin to practice.

    There maybe some parts of your day to day treatment such as xray and the use of local anesthic that you will not be licenced for.

    Also this may and will change when the EU finalise their regulations to Podiatry in the EU.

    Also be very conservative with time when asking questions to Euro governement and associations. ie start sending emails now.. A tax file number took 6 months to come thru.

    Michael Weber
     
  14. Micco

    Micco Member

    Thanks for the advice Michael, I'll look into it a little further.
     
  15. Micco

    Micco Member

    Hi Ron,

    I have been researching podiatry in Italy for quite some time as it is somewhere I would like to spend time working. I don't know how much you know in relation to the profession in Italy but from what I can understand the role of a podiatrist in Italy differs from Australia and other countries from that matter.

    I am under the impression that as an Italian trained podiatrist you are limited to what you can do/treat etc, for example I think many of the biomechanical cases we would normally treat clinically are referred onto an orthopaedic specialist of sorts who deals more specifically with these cases.

    These differences, I assume, are due to undergraduate experience and the structure of the course. I don't think the profession is laid back or lazy, instead Italian podiatrists possibly play a different role in the community.

    Cheers.
     
  16. frederic G

    frederic G Active Member

    This is an explanation of the formation of the podologo student in Italy.

    My language is french but I speak a little italian and english.
    I used the Voilà translator to help me.
    France and Italy are neighbours but we don't know exactly what are the Italian podiatrists/podologo competences!

    Studies in Podologia/Podiatry

    Objectives:
    In the Faculty of Medicine and Surgery is achieved the degree in "podologia".The podologo with a degree in "podologia" are in accordance with the law on August 10 2000, a No 251, article 2, paragraph 1, operators of the sanitary professions of the area of the rehabilitation that they unwind with title and professional autonomy, towards the single individuals and the community, activity to tell the prevention, the care, the rehabilitation and procedures of functional evaluation, in order to carry out the own competences foreseen by the relative professional outlines. The conferred ones of the class are provided with an adequate preparation in the basic disciplines, in order to allow them the best comprehension of the most prominent elements that are to the base of the pathological processes on which their rehabilitative and / or therapeutic intervention is focused in evolutive, adult age and geriatrica. They must be able to use besides at least a language of the European Union, over the Italian, in the specific competence field and for the exchange of general information. Particularly, the conferred ones in the class, as the above-mentioned formative runs, must reach the professional in succession indicated competences and you specify with regard to the single outlines identified with measures of the competent ministerial authority. The attainment of the professional competences is realised through a theoretical and practical formation that includes also the acquisition of behavioural competences and that is achieved in the specific working context of each outline, so to guarantee, at the end of the formative run, the full ownership of all the necessary competences and their immediate spendibilità in the work environment. Particular relief, like integral and qualifying part of the professional formation, covers the practical formative activity and of clinical training, unwound with the supervision and the guide of professional guardians purposely assigned, with a teacher belonging to the most elevated formative level foreseen for each professional and corresponding outline to the where existed rules defined at European level.


    Knowledge:
    The student admitted to the course of degree that has a preparation considered deficient in some disciplinary fields is wanted to attend the courses in such measure to reach an adequate preparation.
    The advice of the didactic structure establishes the entity of the credits to be resulted in the individuals desired, had regard of the result of the examination of admission.
    Characteristics:
    The examination final - supported in front of a Commission named by the competent Authority academic and composed according to law - he understands:
    a) the discussion of result of theoretical-applicatory nature;
    b) a proof of demonstration of practical abilities.
    The final examination cannot be repeated any more of once.
    Fields:
    The conferred ones of the class, as the above-mentioned formative runs, must reach the competences foreseen by the specific professional outlines. Particularly the conferred ones in podologia are sanitary operators who compete the attributions foreseen at the D.M. of the Ministry of the soundness on September 14 1994, No 666 and following modifications and integration; or they deal directly, in the respect of the current normativeness, after objective examination of the foot, with bloodless methods, orthotics and idromassoterapici, the callosities, the nails hypertrophy, deformed and ingrown toenails, as well as the painful foot. The conferred ones in podologia, on medical prescription, forestall and unwind the medication of the ulceracion of the warts of the foot and, in any case, the subject sicknesses bearers attend, also with the purposes of the sanitary education, risk; they individualise and indicate to the doctor the suspicious pathological conditions that ask for a diagnostic widening or a therapeutic intervention; they unwind their professional activity in sanitary, public or private structures, in regime of dependence or professionally - free.


    University Educational Credits
    Degree courses are structured in university Credits (Crediti formativi universitari / C.F.U.) = ECTS (European Credit Transfer System)

    A university Credit corresponds to 25 hours of student workload, time for personal study included.

    Base:
    Biological and psychologic sciences (CFU 17)


    BIO/09: PHYSIOLOGY
    BIO/10: BIOCHEMISTRY
    BIO/13: APPLIED BIOLOGY
    BIO/16: HUMAN ANATOMY
    BIO/17: HISTOLOGY
    M-PSI/01: GENERAL PSYCHOLOGY
    MED/04: GENERAL PATHOLOGY
    MED/07: MICROBIOLOGY AND CLINICAL MICROBIOLOGY

    Preparatory sciences (CFU 5)

    FIS/07: APPLIED PHYSICS (TO CULTURAL, ENVIRONMENTAL PROPERTIES, BIOLOGY AND MEDICINE)
    INF/01: INFORMATICS
    M-DEA/01: DISCIPLINES DEMOETNOANTROPOLOGICHE
    M-PED/01: GENERAL AND SOCIAL PEDAGOGY *
    MED/01: MEDICAL STATISTICS
    SPS/07: GENERAL SOCIOLOGY

    Total CFU basic Activity 22Totale CFU Attività di Base 22
    Characterising:
    First help (CFU 3)

    MED/09: INTERNAL MEDICINE
    MED/18: GENERAL SURGERY
    MED/41: ANESTESIOLOGIA

    Sciences of the podologia (CFU 46)

    MED/09: INTERNAL MEDICINE
    MED/11: SICKNESSES OF THE CARDIOVASCULAR APPARATUS
    MED/13: ENDOCRINOLOGY
    MED/16: RHEUMATOLOGY
    MED/33: SICKNESSES LOCOMOTOR APPARATUS
    MED/34: PHYSICAL AND REHABILITATIVE MEDICINE
    MED/35: CUTANEOUS AND VENEREAL SICKNESSES

    Sciences of the prevention and of the medical services (CFU 3)

    MED/36: DIAGNOSES FOR IMAGES AND RADIOTHERAPY

    MED/42: GENERAL HYGIENE IS APPLIED

    MED/43: LEGAL MEDICINE

    Medical-surgical sciences (CFU 3)

    BIO/14: PHARMACOLOGY

    MED/05: CLINICAL PATHOLOGY

    Total CFU Characterised Activities 55
    It improves:
    Sciences of the sanitary management (CFU 4)

    IUS/07: RIGHT TO WORK
    IUS/09: INSTITUTIONS OF PUBLIC RIGHT

    SECS-P/06: APPLIED ECONOMY
    SECS-P/10: COMPANY ORGANISATION

    Interdisciplinary sciences (CFU 1)

    IUS/10: ADMINISTRATIVE RIGHT
    Clinical interdisciplinary sciences (CFU 12)


    MED/03: MEDICAL GENETICS
    MED/19: PLASTIC SURGERY
    MED/22: SURGERY VASCOLARE
    MED/26: NEUROLOGY

    Human sciences and psicopedagogiche (CFU 1)
    MED/02: HISTORY OF THE MEDICINE

    Total CFU Similar or supplementary Activities 18

    Others:
    For choice of the student (CFU 9)
    For the final proof (CFU 6)
    Proof final CFU 6
    Foreign language CFU 5
    Others (art. 10, paragraph 1, letter f)
    Total CFU 65
    Total CFU Other formative activities 85
     
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