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Interest in dermatology

Discussion in 'Teaching and Learning' started by poddi, Feb 6, 2012.

  1. poddi

    poddi Member


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    I am a p p and I do find the dermatology aspect of my job very rewarding.

    Is there any such thing as a masters in dermatology for podiatrists, and would it also allow me to progress in a way that I could specialize fully in dermatology/podiatry as a pp, and actually receive referrals. I don't even know if there is such a thing as a podiatrist fully specializing in dermatological conditions within podiatry in the NHS.

    Please enlighten me. :)
     
  2. maxants33

    maxants33 Active Member

  3. poddi

    poddi Member

    Thanks for this Maxtants, it looks like an excellent course. And not far from me either :D

    Good luck with your studies!

    Poddi
     
  4. Nikki10

    Nikki10 Active Member

    Kings university does masters in dermatology FT starting oct 2012.
     
  5. blinda

    blinda MVP

    Have you checked the academic entry requirements for that? Taken from their website;
    The problem is podiatry is not deemed as a medical qualification by most `medical`universities in the UK, yet.

    As far as I`m aware, Hertfordshire is the only uni to offer postgraduate MSc modules in dermatology skills and treatment for Allied Health Professionals. Cardiff, Barts and the London uni`s only offer similar courses to General Medical Council or General Dental Council registrants. Yep, those barriers are still there, but are gradually being eroded away as the boundaries of our scope of practice are continuously pushed. For example, the introduction of POMS, (and hopefully independent prescribing rights...did everyone receive their email of acknowledgement today?), has most certainly helped with the development of the Herts dermatology modules. As you`ve probably already seen, these can be studied individually or as a full MSc and were developed by Julia Schofield (who recently did a brilliant double act with Ivan at Harrogate) and other consultant dermatologists. When I can afford it, I intend to work my way through them.

    More later, gotta attend to flu ridden family right now:empathy:

    Cheers,
    Bel
     
  6. blinda

    blinda MVP

    Hi Poddi,

    Yeah, I quite like skin. Keeps the outside out and the inside in....

    Whilst I would recommend the Herts MSc modules, I doubt very much that it would allow you to specialise exclusively (if that`s what you mean by fully) in podiatric dermatology, nor attract many referrals from GP`s or other health professionals. At least not in private practice. Emphasis is currently on the diagnosis and management of skin disease from a State Healthcare (formerly primary care) and/or multi-disciplinary perspective. That said, by increasing your learning on how to be a good observer of the skin, recognise primary and secondary lesions and understanding basic principles will make you a better diagnostician and practitioner.

    In 2008, many PCT`s and healthcare trusts adopted 'A Guide to Dermatology in Podiatry' for their individual areas. Its primary objective was to deliver up-to-date information for clinical practice, in the NHS setting. This guide was later promoted as;
    It should be accessed within this article, here; http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_6857/is_3_12/ai_n31583296/(but the email request for a password doesn`t appear to be working).

    Personally, I think podiatrists can contribute quite a lot to the party in that our perspective of skin disease, adds dimension to that of a qualified dermatologist, who often see conditions of the skin of the foot in static pathogenic terms. Whereas, we regard the lower limbs as dynamic structures and will sometimes seek to improve dermatological problems by altering forces which, at times, address pathology better than a pharmacological agent.

    Whilst Dermatology is my area of special interest, it does not bring in the bucks and I don`t honestly think it will in private practice. However, by demonstrating your interest and rounded skill set, your patients will appreciate your overall podiatric expertise and recommend you to their friends and family.

    I recall that Ivan often stated that Podiatric dermatology should be described, “not as a specialism, but as a broad subject covering all aspects of skin disease affecting the foot (including areas such as systemic diseases, tumours and tissue viability). This should be underpinned by a sound knowledge of general dermatology as skin lesions may manifest on any area of skin, not just exclusively on the foot.” With this in mind, I would recommend (as does the Big Cheese) obtaining associate membership with The British Dermatological Nursing Group (BDNG). This resource opens a whole new network for those with a serious interest in dermatology.

    Ann Davies, President of the BDNG stated;
    http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_6857/is_3_12/ai_n31567338/?tag=content;col1

    Cheers,
    Bel
     
  7. poddi

    poddi Member

    Thank you Bel for taking such time and trouble in your replies, very informative. Do you know if there is such a thing as a podiatry role specializing in dermatology in the nhs, or does not a thing exist.

    Cheers

    Poddi
     
  8. blinda

    blinda MVP

    In short; No, I don`t think so. There are many pods with a special interest in dermatology who work as part of a multi-disciplinary team in the NHS, but I`ll ask the man. Just for you;)

    Have a great day
    Bel
     
  9. maxants33

    maxants33 Active Member

    Hello Bel, just a thought, but what is podiatric dermatology like in the USA? I know its a proper specialism there, but do you know anything about it? I cant find any info online about US masters in it. Do some pods still go to the USA to beef up their qualifications (like Emma Supple, she did some surgery quals there)? If time and money were no issue, could it be done?.....
     
  10. blinda

    blinda MVP

    No idea. Vastly different I would imagine, considering the disparity in Podiatric training.

    Hopefully, one of our friends from across the pond could answer this one?

    Anything could be done....but would it make you happy? ;)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sor9GzivGbk

    Ah, those pre-Euro days.....
     
  11. maxants33

    maxants33 Active Member

    Thanks Bel! :good:
    I dont know if dermatology could ever make me as happy as that vid just did!:D
     
  12. carolethecatlover

    carolethecatlover Active Member

    Me too, dermatology is so fascinating.
    I am still trying to get a clinical trial to prove my treatment for Dyshidrosis is the real deal.
    18 cures out of 20 tries and it costs $26/17 pounds a month.
    I wrote to Herts but can't remember getting a reply. Uni of Cardiff too does a post grad cert.
     
  13. blinda

    blinda MVP

    Hi Carole,

    Cardiff only offer the diploma and MSc in Clinical Dermatology to "Medics". That is, those registered with the GMC/GDC, not Allied Health Professionals.

    http://courses.cardiff.ac.uk/postgraduate/course/detail/841.html

    Good luck with the dyshidrosis research.

    Cheers,
    Bel
     
  14. blinda

    blinda MVP

    Further to my plug for associate membership with the BDNG, would you believe it, I have just received notification of a Dr (congrats) Ivan Bristow dermy CPD day at Poole where;

    "Paula Oliver, in addition to lecturing in her own specialist field, will present the work of the BDNG (British Dermatological Nursing Group) to which Podiatrists with a special interest can affiliate for an annual membership of £20." :drinks
     

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  15. Nikki10

    Nikki10 Active Member

    Hi Belinda,

    About the BDNG, I got the form for applying for membership but on the form it says that non nurses needs to be proposed by an existing member and ordinary membership is open to nurses only?? Do I need to find someone to sign off my form?

    Nikki
     
  16. blinda

    blinda MVP

    Hi Nikki,

    That`s right, we can only obtain associate, not full, membership. You don`t need a reference/proposer for that.

    Hope that helps!

    Bel
     
  17. Wendy

    Wendy Active Member

    'I have just received notification of a Dr (congrats) Ivan Bristow'. Bel, please pass on my congratulations to the Doc...
     
  18. blinda

    blinda MVP

    Will do....actually, you can tell him yourself on 10th November ;)

    Southampton shin dig
     
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