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A New Years Plea To Mark Russell

Discussion in 'General Issues and Discussion Forum' started by Jacky Nowle, Jan 1, 2014.

  1. I've said enough and will stay out of this bitter feud from here on.

    However, I do believe that George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, John Hancock, and Benjamin Franklin were all considered criminals and would likely have all been hanged for treason by the British government a few centuries ago when the United States of America was formed. I'm glad that these men acted on what they thought was right for the land they lived in and am proud of their actions for my country.

    Oh, sorry DTT, I need to "butt out" of things I don't understand....
     
  2. DTT

    DTT Well-Known Member

    Kevin
    your sarcasm does you no credit.

    There is NO FEUD here only in your total misunderstanding/ misreading of the posts made and the situation here.

    And please remember we live in Britain and we HAVE a British government :butcher:

    Your derisory personal comments don't help so.......
    D
     
  3. Kevin:

    Thank you for your kind comments and I'm sorry you have become embroiled in another regrettable episode of UK Podiatry as exemplified by this thread. If the tables were turned and the USA profession were subject to the same problems, I suspect you would be leading a similar quest for change in the legislation to protect the profession and its patients, Stateside. Best wishes to you and your family for 2014.

    All the best

    Mark
     
  4. rosherville

    rosherville Active Member

    Mark

    'then give us your view'

    This thread is on concerns with your wellbeing in regard to your actions and we have given our views. You well know what I have done in regard to the HCPC but I am not seeking to use this site to propogate support, as I think the support required will never be forthcoming.

    As you say, 'Whether we agree or disagree with you is mostly irrelevant and what you have done has been your decision, being perfectly aware of the consequences of that decision

    With that in mind I see no point in continuing with this thread and once again I withdraw leaving it to your good self.

    Regards
     
  5. Thank you, John.

    Best wishes
    Mark
     
  6. Mark:

    I have always enjoyed your commentary here on Podiatry Arena and from what I have seen of your comments, I think you have a very reasonable and level-headed approach to things. Therefore, with these facts in mind, I am in full support of what you are doing there in your country for your profession and wish you the best of luck in your quest.

    My advice? Go where your heart and conscience leads you no matter what others think.

    I'm rooting for you from across the pond!!:drinks:drinks:drinks
     
  7. W J Liggins

    W J Liggins Well-Known Member

    I am very happy to accept that Mark did not put the attached photograph before the court, and that he did not mention it verbally in his defence. My opinion remains the same - I admire his stand and wish that he had the full support of the professional bodies. I also agree that postings on this site must be made with care, as they can easily be misinterpreted, and as I understand it, the matter is still sub judice?

    Bill Liggins
     
  8. Thank you, Bill - I appreciate that.

    Best wishes
    Mark
     
  9. W J Liggins

    W J Liggins Well-Known Member

    Well, they were, at the time traitors, unlike John Andre who the colonials hung against the rules of war then appertaining. Obviously the 'War of Independence' is a subject studied in the States in detail, whilst it is not in the UK, but we could amuse ourselves for many days discussing the rights and wrongs. It is certainly amusing to read Wikipedia on the subject with the incredible bias inherent.

    All the best

    Bill Liggins
     
  10. W J Liggins

    W J Liggins Well-Known Member

    PS. Like Pitt, I am all for 'no taxation without representation' and that is another area where the HCPC falls down.
     
  11. Pitt lived in a different era; what is relevant now is 'no taxation without representation and accountability'. That applies equally to government and the HCPC.
     
  12. Just been given the heads-up to a HCPC listening event at the Marriott Hotel, Broughton in Preston on Tuesday 18th February at 5.45-8pm. Anyone in travelling distance of Preston, who would like to listen to Marc Seale answer some questions on the issues around this case, please come along. You can register online.

    Look forward to seeing you there.
     
  13. rosherville

    rosherville Active Member

  14. But since he's already been convicted of that crime, he can't be tried for the same again as that would constitute double jeopardy-right?
     
  15. rosherville

    rosherville Active Member

    Simon

    But since he's already been convicted of that crime, he can't be tried for the same again as that would constitute double jeopardy-right ?

    Right, as you`ve described, but if he`s appealing on grounds that he had not claimed to be registered ! Having this site still up and running would take some explaining.
     
  16. This was the evidence that the HCPC referred to in court, John. It is a cached webpage that dates from 2004 - four years predating the date of offence. You will find thousands of entries for Mark Russell Podiatrist and some with HPC Registered on google - many of them on Podiatry Arena, some on the BBC and other media sites. The page referred to has my old practice address and telephone number which will be confusing to many patients and is not something I find helpful - but I cannot change or delete this page, which was created by the running club after I sponsored a race - and neither can the club. Here is another http://www.zoominfo.com/p/Mark-Russell/171601794 and another at 0751 - http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/today/listenagain/listenagain_20041014.shtml and another http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/2549395.stm and another http://www.scottish.parliament.uk/pa...3058&mode=html

    What you will not find is any item which states I am HPC registered, state registered or just plain registered after 2008. I don't advertise; I have no entry in the yellow pages and usually when I sign my name - it is only my name and occasionally podiatrist that goes on the paper. Are you seriously suggesting I trawl the internet and remove all references to HPC Registered, Registered and State Registered from third party websites that may have been made quite properly when I was registered? If you had taken the trouble to attend the hearing on 11 November, you would have heard this argument and explanation in court. The HCPC were aware of these facts yet still tried to portray it as an example of deceiving the public, thereby misleading the court. What is your point in raising it now?
     
  17. rosherville

    rosherville Active Member

    Mark

    What is your point in raising it now

    but I cannot change or delete this page


    I thought it was obvious when I posted 'you'll no doubt wish to do something about it'. I, like the majority who see such sites, would not necessarily know that you can't have them erased or that they are ancient. Now it`s on the record !
     
  18. Mark:

    You are now famous in the United States...this article was just published in Podiatry Management News which is distributed to over 15,000 podiatrists. Good job!
     
  19. Thanks Kevin - good to see Barry Block is still on his toes... ;-)
     
  20. rosherville

    rosherville Active Member

    Kevin

    Amazing, how on earth did they get the story along with a photo ? More coverage than was given this side of the pond.

    What's the situation in the USA, presumably a Podiatrist needs to be registered/licenced but could someone cut nails & remove hard skin without being 'regulated' ?

    Regards
     
  21. blinda

    blinda MVP

  22. I know it was a pretty horrid photo - but that's a bit below the belt, Bel! Wasn't even wearing a dress (this time)!

    John - a more relevant question might be ..... Would a DPM that was struck-off for fraud or sexual molestation of patients be allowed to continue in practice by simply using a different title - like Foot & Ankle Specialist - undertaking the same procedures that they did whilst practising as a DPM assuming they escaped criminal prosecution...... Is Brian Rothbart able to practice podiatric medicine and surgery in the USA for instance - or can you?
     
  23. blinda

    blinda MVP

    Granted, this International Man of Mystery doesn`t look as if he`s about to burst into song...
     
  24. rosherville

    rosherville Active Member

    John - a more relevant question might be .....

    It might be but it`s not, the question to Kevin is as put: What's the situation in the USA, presumably a Podiatrist needs to be registered/licenced but could someone cut nails & remove hard skin without being 'regulated' ?
     
  25. David Smith

    David Smith Well-Known Member

    Mark

    Occurs to me (probably occurred to most others sooner but i'm a bit slow since having the brain fat removed) that there is a certain irony here i.e. your campaigning, with great courage, gusto and faith, to protect the public from poor quality, impaired, sub standard and even under hand podiatry practice and yet you are prosecuted and persecuted by the very people and organisation that has been tasked with this objective.
    It seems that the HCPC main have forgotten their prime objective in favour of enforcing the rules of the regime and one upmanship.

    Dave
     
  26. Possibly, Dave - that might be how some see it, but to understand the HCPC's approach you need to familiarise yourself with their prosecution policy. http://www.hpc-uk.org/assets/documents/10003FB5POLICY-Prosecutions-Aug2012.pdf
    The really interesting part of this policy is in regard to Hearing Aid Dispensers - who have both protection of title and function legislation framework - exactly what podiatry needs. This amendment was granted after the 2001 Order came into force - so we know this can be done when necessary. Why isn't it being applied to podiatry - is the real question.

    Mark
     
  27. W J Liggins

    W J Liggins Well-Known Member

    Hi Mark

    Now that question should be asked by the official podiatry representative to the HCPC. The answer from that individual might be interesting.

    All the best

    Bill
     
  28. We don't have an "official podiatry representative" anymore, Bill.
     
  29. W J Liggins

    W J Liggins Well-Known Member

    Do we not? I recall reading that in 1776 the then colonies in the USA rebelled on the basis of "no taxation without representation". Perhaps this is another instance.
     
  30. Have to take your word, Bill - I can't remember that far back.....but I think the Jacobites had similar issues in 1745. George Monbiot, writing in The Guardian today struck a note...
     
  31. David Smith

    David Smith Well-Known Member

    Mark
    I would say that prosecution policy backs up my thoughts. Like your Gaurdian quote
    Dave
     
  32. Podess

    Podess Active Member

  33. Pauline burrell-saward

    Pauline burrell-saward Active Member

    visiting the USA a few times, had my feet pedicured, they seemed to be happy to remove corns and hard skin as well ( not with scalpel,)

    My relatives in the USA tell me that when they go to a podiatrist, for even one corn the practitioner spends all the appointment persuading them to have foot surgery.

    they don't like doing " basic work"

    sounds like the NHS !!!!
     
  34. Perhaps that's because your relatives need foot surgery to correct the underlying problem. I guess an extended scope of practice gives the clinicians more options. Ever ask yourself why it's not the same in the UK, Polly?
     
  35. Pauline burrell-saward

    Pauline burrell-saward Active Member

    What's with "Polly"

    no, my relatives do not need surgery, we are talking about a little bitty corn.
     
  36. Sorry - my fault; Freudian slip. Maybe your relatives should seek a second opinion or do you think all US Podiatrists promote unnecessary and unwarranted treatment?
     
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