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what is informed consent and how is it obtained?

Discussion in 'United Kingdom' started by anthony watson, Mar 2, 2014.

  1. anthony watson

    anthony watson Active Member


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    hi
    what is your opinion on informed consent in podiatry?

    How can it be best obtained from the patient?

    What is the legal weight of informed consent?

    I would value your opinions

    thanks
    in advance
    Anthony
     
  2. Simon Ross

    Simon Ross Active Member

    Anthony,

    having been on a course on consent run by top lawyer Andrew Andrews, to cut a very long story short,

    we do not obtain "informed consent" that is an Americansim.

    we obtain effective consent for nail cutting, callous reduction. By coming into the treatment room, taking of their shoes/socks, they are giving "implied consent" and that is sufficient for that.

    with regards to nail surgery, needling, anything that involves a needle, we must obtain consent in writing and that consent form MUST include the most frequently occurring risks[/B]. it does not have to list every risk. to do that you would literally have to do a google search to find out every adverse event that has occurred to that day.

    The Americans obtain informed consent which is why their consent forms are so long apparently.
     
  3. rosherville

    rosherville Active Member

    This subject has already been fully covered on this site !
     
  4. anthony watson

    anthony watson Active Member

    oh
    I see wont ask again !
    thanks
     
  5. dazzalyn1

    dazzalyn1 Member

    Don't be sorry, I was pleased to be reminded again
     
  6. foot rott

    foot rott Banned

    funny my dentist never asked for consent when he gives me an L/A?
    seems dental consent is different from podiatry.


    Ed
     
  7. Podess

    Podess Active Member

    Anthony,
    Briefly,

    Consent must be valid - ie
    The consenting in person must have capacity
    The consenting person must be given and understnd the relevent information.
    The consent must be given without coercion.


    Consent may be -

    Implied

    The pt has requested t/ment and presumably is willing to have that treatment.

    Verbal,

    You explain what the treatment involves and the patient says "OK - go ahead"

    Written,
    You explain what the treatment involves ( + and - ) and the patient says "OK - go ahead" in front of a witness. ( Pt must be made aware of the possibilty of regrowth with pna & tna and how the practitioner will deal with that, should it occur.)

    For LA consent should be written and the patient must understnd the nature of the LA, the consequences of not using it, the nature of the proposed procedure and the dressings and aftercare regime.

    Check the Gillick Competency/Fraser Guidelines for more info.


    The patient and a witness sign their agreement and the patient gets the top copy of the consent form.
     
  8. anthony watson

    anthony watson Active Member

    Thanks
    very well explained and helpful.
    When working in the NHS Documentation is part of procedures and policy.
    When working privately I follow socp guidelines for best practice as my indemnity insurance.

    Recent debate in one of my NHS jobs was around consent for debridement in ulcerated patients.
    What is you opinion of the need for this

    good info

    Thanks Anthony:good:
     
  9. Podess

    Podess Active Member

    Hi Anthony,
    I agree that if you are an SCP Member you should follow their guidelines.

    Why would you need consent? If they are there in the clinic with a hole in their foot I am sure they want it healed and I would hope they would engage with the treatment plan.

    I no longer do NHS Diabetic Clinics so perhaps someone in that field can advise as to what the new protocols are. (But there again, they could vary from Trust to Trust).

    P
     
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