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Abolish the HPC

Discussion in 'United Kingdom' started by John Long, Jul 9, 2010.

  1. Here you go:
    http://www.hpc-uk.org/assets/documents/10002A31HPCannualreport2008-09.pdf

    page 47
     
  2. Wolves Cat

    Wolves Cat Member

    Interesting balance sheet?!?
     
  3. I suspect they have a good accountant.;) For the record, I currently have no issues with the HPC- am I missing something? Can somebody tell me what they have done which is detrimental to the profession? What aspects of regulation did the CPSM do better? I know I used to pay about £17 per annum to the CPSM, whereas I pay £70 odd to the HPC, but I guess inflation might account for much of that. I don't see the problem?
     
  4. rosherville

    rosherville Active Member

    'a conversation around the issues raised - one of which was the Human Rights Act and he agreed this was untested in respect of the Health Professions Order and it would probably need a test case to resolve it'


    I very much doubt that the HPC have not taken legal opinion on their chance of suuccess in bringing an action !
     
  5. Catfoot

    Catfoot Well-Known Member

    Simon,
    Thanks for the link to HPC - a very interesting piece of reading with a few real gems in it such as ;-

    "Virtually all it's financial costs are funded by fees from Registrants" - I wonder how they make up the shortfall?
    So the answer to Eanna's question is "probably not a lot".

    They have now purchased the building next door and one reason given is "so we can hold more Fitness to Practice Hearings at Park House" if they are expecting an increase and how do they know this?! :confused:

    They have 116 WTE staff - wow! what a cosy little microcosm of society they have down there. :rolleyes:

    Out of all the Professions regulated, in terms of numbers (and therefore fees paid) Chiropody/Podiatry comes a poor 7th. Top numbers for Registrants were Physios followed by OT's. So it could be argued that if all the Pods de-registered it wouldn't leave much of a hole.

    There are 185,000 persons on the register - interesting.


    I don't have a personal gripe with the HPC. Hoever, I might think differently if I had been the subject of unfounded allegation or been on the receiving end of an NHS Trust using them as a means to discipline staff.

    CF
     
  6. samurai2k2

    samurai2k2 Welcome New Poster

    I have no problem with the concept of the HPC however... there are graduates from my year who are registered already, yet myself and partner recieved letters saying that the HPC have not recieved the 2010 pass list from our schoool yet??? we ring the school to find that it HASN'T been sent yet (Aug 18th) yet there are as I said earler, still graduates from our school whom are appearing on the site as fully registered with POMs LA etc and even some who have even recieved there hard copy HPC cerification!!!!! Just how is this possible if the whole point of the HPC is to make sure were fit for practice (those listed have passed, however the HPC have no way of knowing)? Surely this is a obvious floor and needs to be addressed along with the other points raised in earlier posts!

    Rant over :)
     
  7. wend0164

    wend0164 Member

    Hi John,

    What happens if you are a Podiatrist and you dont want to be HPC registered and drop the title and become a foot health practitioner.

    Any ideas where one could get insured?

    No one seems to have the answer.

    Thanks
     
  8. Plenty firms offer professional indemnity insurance - your local broker should be able to assist.
     
  9. Catfoot

    Catfoot Well-Known Member

  10. John Long

    John Long Member



    Sorry for the delay Wendo,

    Although I disagree with many aspects of the HPC I would urge you not to rush into removing yourself from their database, (I still find it difficult to think of it as a register).
     
  11. Catfoot

    Catfoot Well-Known Member

    John says,

    and I would agree with that although I don't know how you would remove yourself from the register. As I understand it, practitioners are only removed by the HPC if they either
    a. refuse to pay their fees or
    b. have an adverse outcome from a Fitness to Practice hearing.

    I could be wrong but it seems to me a bit like trying to get your deatails off the Reader's Digest mailing list.

    In addition, even if you were to de-register there could be problems accessing LA supplies, which could cramp your practice style a bit.

    regards

    Catfoot
     
  12. wend0164

    wend0164 Member


    Any idea where the 1500 figure comes from?

    I am one of the deregistered!!!!
    It may not make a blind bit of difference to the HPC, but as a professional are you being true to you, or supporting a"Hierachy structure" that bears no relation to the work that you do.
     
  13. Catfoot

    Catfoot Well-Known Member

    wend0164,
    If you are no longer an HPC registrant doesn't this cause problems with supplies of LA?

    Just curious

    regards

    Catfoot
     
  14. John Long

    John Long Member


    You are certainly not ranting Mark!

    It may interest you to catch up on the situation with the psychotherapists using the link below.....

    http://hpcwatchdog.blogspot.com/

    The psychotherapists took HPC to judicial review and the Government, entirely co-incidentally I'm sure, have decided that they will abandon statutory regulation in favour of a new voluntary approach.This new idea sounds suspiciously like the original system, though perhaps i am being overly cynical.
     
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