Can Abnormal Pronation Change the Occlusion

Excuse, I did, and Dieter is a good boy

 

I'm also surprised. Both Brian and his running mate in London coached me extensively when I first picked up this bad habit, out of idle curiosity and a natural tendency to be drawn by the eccentric personality. In any case, there is little coaching required. Brian's Rothbart foot requires little in the way of intellectual comprehension, nor practical application. But, of course, admitting this will make a mockery of a 30,000 Euro fee.

The fact is, my heel pain improved. Instead of congratulating me, Brian goes on the attack. As well he might. The self administered cortisone shot to my heel may have helped more than Rothbartian (aka shaft pad) interventionism.

Wait, that was another foolish act on my behalf.

Brian, have you ever heard the expression "Physician heel thyself".

No?

Of course not.

 

Brian

Which Royal Society of Health please?

 

lmao ... thanks Dr. Kidd. Maybe not SO good ;-) But, I was asking Brian R. where he got HIS training.

All the same, a wonderful and nostalgic blast from the past. I still wax lyrically even now, going through my second round of Podiatry training, US style, about the fact that I had this amazing BMX instructor. Your stick diagrams are engraved on my withering brain. The kids in school would have loved your style of teaching, and benefited tremendously. Many of my classmates (who are very bright kids!) adopt a vacant gaze on the topic of podiatric BMX.

I often wondered how your teaching would have adapted in this changing world.

But I have never forgiven you for leaving England - oh well, Australia's gain.

:drinks

 

Dieter, I have been up since 4.30 am writing documentation for the new course in Queensland - forgive my grazing approach to pod arena. Thanks for the kind words about my style of teaching; there is no need for the sychophancy, it is simply what I do, and perhaps do well. You are not the first to note that I have a rather "eccentric" approach to teaching. I will always looks for the truth, with as little rubbish attatched as is possible. Next time I am in NY, you can buy me a beer. Rob

 

Credit where credit is due.

A beer (or three) and a slice of pizza!

 

Well, that's what makes horse racing. We all have opinions.

What I have found very revealing about these discussions is that they are not discussions. Rather, they are condemnations from people irritated (or possible threatened) by my research in biomechanics/neuophysiology Makes no sense to me, but after 5 years (more or less) of this reocurring theme on this forum, one has to finally accept it.

Really too bad. Thought provoking and challenging discussions could be had, if it were otherwise.

What was happening, is I found myself starting to become like the individuals venting on my work.

I apologize if I offended anyone. However, I do think that my drollness about Rothbarts Toe is quite hilarious if not riotous. And not one comment!

Brian

 

i did a guest lecture at NYCPM at their Grand Round in perhaps 1999; I am not sure they ever recovered............ At the risk of being rude, arrogant, pompous (all of the above?), I think they were loooking for another Pom to fry for breakfast. Well, wrong guy! I did a presentation on the genetics of foot evolutionary defects, and, slowly, one could sense a change in the auditorium it slowly changed to to F**k, we had better listen. At the end, their Prof of biology (??? Bristler??) chatted to me, and asked some very profound questions - he was not stupid, not to put tooooo finer point on it. But the kids in the class, well, call it an evolutionary moment; well, that is my life's work!


Oh - you ask about how I might had adapted; well, I did exactly that; one either adapts or goes extinct. am still alive and kicking, in spite of many attempts to have me put down. I mean, think about this; when I arrrived in Western Australia, their association president was hear to say - in public - "They have employed yet another Pom" - that is the **** we had to live with. I wonder if she is listening - and what she says now?
Rob

 

You have an unnatural and tedious talent for dispensing offense even in the very act of apologizing. Why not instead simply address the very many questions that have been left hanging in the air, Brian, in this thread, and the others before that.

I'll save you the trouble: because you cannot. Your are not interested in a debate. What you want is validation of your fantasy. Podiatry Arena is most definitely not a forum that will pander to your self aggrandizing desire.

In this singular instance: DPM= Does Not Practice Medicine.

Aston Martin Cygnet Pricing is set at 30,000 Euros.

How DO you justify that 30,000 euro fee? And sleep at night. :butcher:

 

That would be Dr. Bressler. Now retired, but he taught my class. Indeed, a very perceptive and intelligent Professor.

America (my experience of it, so far) is, by and large very traditional in orientation. The maverick who might set out to rock that apple cart faces a fierce challenge. Especially in the area of BMX. Livelihoods are at stake.

Dr. K. Rome lectured at NYCPM in 2011. His work challenges the traditional idiom of BMX / CFO; the reception was equally frosty, albeit polite and professional. This is, in part, a cultural diastases entrenched in the delivery of Podiatry (healthcare in general). It is a system very different to those countries following the socialized model of health care. Recognition and conformation to this truism has been the greatest challenge to me, by far. Now that I am working within the system, I can appreciate the problems.

I spoke to a couple of people who recall your lecture. Punctuated by the fact the work was not universally comprehensible to all. Dr. S. Levitz (another amazing professor), remembers the visit, and enjoyed it greatly. I know he silently surveys PA - perhaps he may add a comment.

 

Brian no one finds you clever perhaps? Just answer the questions, pick one and quit deflecting.

 

Rothbart:

We are all waiting for your answers. Now is the time for you to come out of the dark shadows of your exodus around the world and let the bright light of your amazing "discoveries", like how Anna Nicole Smith died of Rothbart's Foot, shine upon the rest of us.

It is now your time, Rothbart. Please, Father of Chronic Pain Elimination, show us the light.

 

Finally managed to watch the Coen Brothers comedy, The Big Lebowski, at the weekend and was managing to contain myself until the scene with Jeff Bridges and Julianne Moore - where she is resting, post-cotial, on the bed and suddenly raises her knees to her chin and rocks gently back and forward to the amazement of the curious Dude. "It helps with conception" she explains.

Obviously, Brian's insoles weren't around when it was filmed otherwise he would be practising somewhere like Nevis or St Kitts these days.

 

it is truly frighting that it took you until now to see it Mark

imho 1 of the all time great films

ps maybe this might be something for you Mark

Dudeism

 

Think I've just found a new career! Cheers Mike. Interesting that Brian didn't respond to my query regarding his Fellowship with the Royal Society of Health. The RSH are no longer in existence having merged with the Royal Society of Public Health a few years ago. Membership is open to anyone who works in the field of public health. According to the Membership Secretary, Brian was a member in 2010 but his membership lapsed one year later and he is no longer a member. I suppose a Fellowship of a Royal Society would look good on a CV which is maybe the reason he took out a years membership in the first place. I don't suppose he would care to enlighten?

 

Looking back almost 10 years ago, the anger I inchoated when I suggested that gravity drive (abnormal) pronation could impact the occlusion. If you review the comments above by my esteemed compeers, they were indignant, if not downright invective, that I would make such a suggestion.

Fast forward today, there is a great deal of agreement, that how the foot moves does indeed impact the occlusion. What saddens me is not the unkind references made to my research, but the fact that we, as a profession, missed a golden opportunity to be on the forefront and give this important link the attention it deserves.

That opportunity is now lost. If one does a Google search on this link, one will observe the growing literature on this link and a significant absence of our input.

 

Hi Kevin,

I accept your offer. Open the discussion.