Chiropractors: New age GPs or Quacks

Dear Dr.

Oh dear

I did not publish those reports, you did. I only pointed out that useless studies are treated as gospel.

I am glad you read my website.
I use chirporactic techniques you say. Try going to Soddom and there you can find inscriptions on how to manipulate the neck!
Only several thousand years old. Nothing is new only studies that do not stand up to scrutiny.

I can go on and on but not being bitter as you suggest I will not.

by the way in the video regarding chiropractic it was stated that Macquarie University will cease teaching chiropractic.

Finally I hope to only see patients 3-4 times max. I recently saw a lady who had a contract from a chiropractor for 3 visits a week for 6 months and then 2 visits a week for a year and then no guarantee..

funny how 2 acupuncture needles used in dry needling fixed her 18 years of back pain after a massive garage door fell upon her.

Regards

From a very sunny world
Paul Conneely
www.musmed.com.au

 

That is very interesting, Paul, because I took this testimonial right off your website www.musmed.com.au

Paul, I suppose these APHRA rules against testimonials, "no if's or but's", don't apply to you?

 

Dear Kevin

A big thank you for putting my teaching website on the map.

That is exactly what it is.
I do not proclaim anything I do with patients.
Thus APHRA has no ruling what I do outside of my clinical practice.
I do not have a website for what I do.

Close but no cigar

But thanks any way

Still bright and sunny
And I feel the same

Regards
Paul Conneely
www.musmed.com.au

 

Don't agree with you Paul. The website clearly informs the reader where and when you practice. The claim that this may be your "teaching" website is pure semantics. Wing and a prayer comes to mind...

 

No if's and but's????

 

From the National Law

initially a complaint would need to be made, then an initial investigation / decision as to whether the education service was considered a business that provides regulated health services...

 

What really chaps my hide is when a person with such negative opinions is a hypocrite. Look at this page and tell me how can you align yourself with chiropractors and then denigrate the profession publicly? I wonder what the DC in this practice would say if they saw this thread on PA?

http://www.sydneyessentialhealth.com.au/Other_Services/Other_Musculoskeletal_Medicine.html

http://www.sydneyessentialhealth.com.au/Modalities/Index_Mod.html

Boggles the mind eh?

 

No David, it does not boggle my mind. I think the following thread will enlighten you on who you are dealing with:

http://www.podiatry-arena.com/podiatry-forum/showthread.php?t=92006

With these kind of people, no matter what is happening around them, it is always sunny.

Steven

 

Speaking of ...here is a DC with something to say regarding the foot orthosis. http://sock-doc.com/2011/09/unnecessary-orthotics/ I am dubious obviously. The articles are one thing but in the comments there is among other gems:

Claire says:
October 20, 2011 at 5:35 am
Not sure if this has already been mentioned as have just found your website… I haven’t tried these personally but have heard about the benefits of http://www.barefootscience.com/ insoles which work to strengthen the foot while wearing shoes. May be a good transition to barefoot running – first work on strenghten the foot and improve biomechanics, especially in those with actual foot problems.

Sock Doc says:
October 20, 2011 at 8:14 am
I have had a few patients try them. Mixed results – either no change or has helped. They are probably the only insole I’d recommend, and one still needs to work towards barefoot. But they are a good transition device going from highly supportive shoes or orthotics (or an injury) to minimalist/barefoot.

The bias is obvious but I suppose the real question still revolves around what the average public searcher should be exposed to. (Censure? We can't). I hate to be harsh but this big bad internet just keeps puking out more and more sites dedicated to self promotion mixed with mis information that throw objectivity out with the proverbial bathwater.

Oh well. :boohoo:

 

"Soc Doc" doesn't have a clue, just another follower, pledging fealty to another false prophet of yet another ephemeral fad. He hitched his wagon to this fantasy to self-promote and that fantasy is taking a facial in the scientific literature and retail. Facts.

There are so many inaccuracies on his web page and in his articles that one wonders here to begin pointing them out? Wandering around your office in socks because it's "natural", is that the best gimmick that he could come up with?

I wonder how all of the patients who drank their Kool-Aid will respond when they find they've been duped?

Barefoot Science(sic); been there done that on another thread. :craig:

 

I find this thread interesting to read for a number of reasons but mainly for the utter ignorance that is apparent in most of what has been said.

I am a qualified podiatrist and osteopath. I can say in no uncertain terms that osteopathy is not based on pseudoscience but is founded on very logical concepts and principles that when applied correctly produce amazing results.

I find it interesting that Craig Paign was witness to the positive results of an osteopathic treatment and yet because the osteopath was talking in terms that he felt were 'non- scientific....or woooo!', he now dismisses that whole thing and sais he would never go near an osteopath again?

Another comment insinuates that osteopathic education is based on pseudoscience. Let me tell you, I have studied both courses and I can tell you from experience, that my osteopathy degree was far more in depth and our understanding of anatomy is second to none. Osteopathy is a seriously challenging degree and in many ways far more difficult then medicine. Podiatry degree is a walk in the park compared.

I cant speak for chiropractic but it really irritates me when people think they hold the moral and academic high ground and go around calling every one quacks. Sure there are some bad eggs out there but if you think osteopathy is all about 'cracking joints' and 'talking a load of bull****', you really have got it terribly wrong

 

As I said that osteopath did good work and fixed the problem. But they spun me an absolute load of bull**** to explain and justify what they were doing - its was insulting - it was all nonsensical woo and pseudoscience. I have no idea if they were taught it as part of their osteopathy course or not or just made it up - it certainly tarnished my image of the profession. The osteopathic profession should be embarrassed that they have people in their profession that spin the crap that I got spun. "Yin and yan", "life forces", "energy lines", "rebirthing" got mentioned lots of time. Please tell me that you were or were not taught that as part of the osteopathy course? Any course that teaches that is based on woo and pseudoscientifc.

What are osteopaths doing about the pseudosceintifc claims being made by some osteopathy practitioners?

At least the Chiropractic Registration Board in Australia is now issuing some edicts to chiropractors that tout pseudoscience that there registration is at risk if they don't stop.

 

About time they started doing the same thing to Podiatrists - however I fear over the last 12 months it would seem that Podiatrists may talk complete and utter BS to the public, media outlets and their own profession and still get away with bloody murder! We all witnessed one of the most blatant breaches in modern registration times this past year by an Australian Podiatrist which directly effected the public and absolutely nothing was done. No message conveyed and no message sent.

The ONLY way these people are brought to any form of justice is for their own profession to disown them. Plain and simple. Witchcraft is witchcraft, BS is still and always will be BS.....