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Clear nail varnish

Discussion in 'General Issues and Discussion Forum' started by esky365, Jul 7, 2013.

  1. esky365

    esky365 Active Member


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    prevents us from picking up fungal nail infections by providing a physical barrier?
     
  2. blinda

    blinda MVP

    If only it were that simple. The majority of tinea infections involve the whole nail apparatus, predominately occuring in the subungual area (remember Digger?). Onychomycosis is classified clinically as; distal and lateral subungual onychomycosis (DLSO), superficial white onychomycosis (SWOM), proximal subungual onychomycosis (PSO), candidal onychomycosis and total dystrophic onychomycosis.

    It doesn`t matter what you paint on the nail plate, it will not prevent infection of the nail bed in a compromised/traumatised nail.
     
  3. kitos

    kitos Active Member

    Try Acrytensil extra hard. I use it to fight mycosis and it works well. Seals the nail in and allows the nail to breath. Nail grows out slowly but surely after grinding down. Germaline New Skin is the same!

    Clear nail varnish will just suffocate the bed and cause more damage to the nail.

    Nick
     
  4. blinda

    blinda MVP

    Hi Nick,

    Quick butchers, yet I can`t find anything on the ingredients which are used in Acrytensil, can you enlighten us? Don`t take this the wrong way, but I`m slightly confused by your terminolgy " Seals the nail in and allows the nail to breath. Nail grows out slowly but surely after grinding down.". OK, we know it can take 9-12 months for a great toenail plate to re-grow, but you and I both know that the rate of growth cannot be determined/affected by mechanical reduction nor any topical coating....

    That aside, I`m more interested in your explanation of `sealing the nail` and even more so, proof of your contention that nails `breathe`.
     
  5. Paul Bowles

    Paul Bowles Well-Known Member

    The term to watch here is: SUBUNGUAL kitos........ Painting something on top of the nail and sealing it in will not get to the SUBUNGUAL onycomycoses.
     
  6. Lab Guy

    Lab Guy Well-Known Member

    Quick butchers, yet I can`t find anything on the ingredients which are used in Acrytensil, can you enlighten us?

    Methyl Methacrylate

    Steven
     
  7. Paul Bowles

    Paul Bowles Well-Known Member

    Thats the substance used to attach fake nails right? Doesn't it have an inherent link to developing nail pathology?
     
  8. Lab Guy

    Lab Guy Well-Known Member

    I went to amazon.com and that is what was listed on the photo of the bottle. I do not know much else.

    Steven
     
  9. kitos

    kitos Active Member

    Hi Blinda,

    Groan...I just knew I should not have answered this posting and just carried on using it and getting good results!

    Yes the glue is Methyl Methacrylate and the solvent is Chloroform.

    It is "very porous" (quoting from manufacturers instructions and recommendations for its use in mycosis) "and allows normal evaporation to take place and thus becomes an artificial nail plate."

    They have changed their instructions etc I think over the past 5 years or so that I have been using it.

    Whether anyone wants to believe me or not is a matter for them and maybe there isn't evidence based paperwork on it (you would have to ask the manufacturer who I think are in Canada as Ross just market it over here). However it works and is infinitely nicer than terbinafine or sole use of amorolofine etc.

    I have had clients who have been on tabs and topical for 2 years and it hasn't touched them.
    BTW that was also without any liver function tests done by GP's on them either!

    Prime example of how it works is a 89 yr old retired dairy farmer who I am seeing today. His wife has known him since he was 14 and he had horrible nails then after being pulped by cows whilst milking. It took 18 months of 8 weekly visits to get most of the nails back to pure white and healthy. The hallux's took a little longer. One is great and the other almost there.

    What else can I say?

    I also know that Germoline New Skin works as I used it on myself. It's a bit slower but works very well and why not as it is a 'breathable dressing'.

    The proof of the pudding is basically it works for me and I have some very very happy clients who can now wear sandals this summer for the first time in years.

    Scoff if you will (and some probably will) but I have those past and present clients who know it works and 3 new patients this week who want it to work.

    Sorry it isn't too scientific Bel....just sometimes as you know things work and we don't exactly know why.

    Cheers

    Nick
     
  10. kitos

    kitos Active Member

    Paul,

    I would suggest it is the fake nails bonding to the nail that messes everything up...ditto nail varnish on for weeks/months on end.

    Re subungual - try it. It does! Mind you you have to spend a bit of time grinding it all down first.
    Nick
     
  11. kitos

    kitos Active Member

    Look at all the Podiatry equipment catalogues....it's there in all of them.

    Maybe they also know something that others don't?

    Nick
     
  12. blinda

    blinda MVP

    Steady on, Nick. I wasn`t asking for anything `too scientific`, just an explanation of what you meant by `sealing` and ` breathing`. No scoffing from here.

    I ask this with genuine sincerity; can you tell us what the active anti-fungal properties are?
     
  13. blinda

    blinda MVP

  14. Paul Bowles

    Paul Bowles Well-Known Member


    "Direct contact with liquid MMA can cause itching, burning, redness, swelling, and cracking of the skin. Repeated skin contact can cause dermatitis (skin rash). In some people, an allergic skin reaction can occur. There are reports that prolonged skin contact may cause tingling, numbness, and whitening of the fingers. MMA easily penetrates most ordinary clothing and can also penetrate surgical gloves."

    ...and people complain about oral terbinafine sheesh!


    Good news is it doesn't cause cancer in animals! Lucky for them....
     
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