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Foot exercise

Discussion in 'General Issues and Discussion Forum' started by timharmey, Jul 31, 2011.

  1. Boots n all

    Boots n all Well-Known Member

    The keynote speaker at the APMGFA's PS 11 was Ash Mahoney, he is big on foot excise and strengthening for children through to sprinters and including dancers.

    Might be of interest for you and quite challenging to have a "Toe race" with your colleagues.

    Hope this helps you.

    http://www.footstrength.com/aboutUs.asp
     
  2. timharmey

    timharmey Active Member

    When I started this debate I wanted to learn things which I have. I am not an academic but you have to, I think , bow down to evidence based medicine the alternative is to make up any old thing.Simon I respect you , If not your taste in music , how about some Jam ? I want to learn from podiatrists being one or other medical based practioners that is what I want to get out of something like this.Is this possible ?
    Tim
     
  3. NO. I have merely pointed out that if you focus on strength it will fail to address the muscle imbalances. It was you who started talking about optimisation, not I. I'm neither chasing holy grails nor pots of gold. Don't try and build straw men arguments with me, **** for brains. You are so dishonest.


    All yours Timmy, I'm sick of this lying prick anyway.
     
  4. blinda

    blinda MVP

    The atmosphere's a fine blend of ice.... almost stone cold dead
    In a town called malice.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfpRm-p7qlY

    Can`t imagine why you have been banned from other forums, sicknote, but I was pleased to see that you agreed that the sick thread you started yesterday should, rightly, be removed.

    Best wishes,
    Bel
     
  5. Tim, you may find these two texts useful to you or anyone else interested in muscles:
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Assessment-...=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1312568731&sr=1-1
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Facilitated-Stretching-Robert-McAtee/dp/0736062483

    And if you haven't got a copy of Kendall, you can pick this up pretty reasonably as well: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Muscles-Testing-Function-Posture-Pain/dp/0781747805
     
  6. Sicknote

    Sicknote Active Member


    It's an impossibility Simon due to all the shortening and lengthening muscles undertake during the day. When does your body tell you when you have hit the right force at the right point within the range?.

    Seems to me as though your chasing shadows.
     
  7. blinda

    blinda MVP

    Sicknote, please refrain from sending me personal messages, they are not welcome from you.

    You know nothing about me, nor my experience of cancer treatment.
     
  8. Seems to me that you're a ****ing prick, who has some sort of difficulty understanding when they are not welcome.
     
  9. Sicknote

    Sicknote Active Member

    Which has answered my question well & truly.

    You will never know when you have hit the right force at the right point within the range or whether or not your at the optimal point within the length/tension curve.

    There is no way to determine such a thing. Your body won't tell you.

    I conclude that you are chasing shadows my friend.
     
  10. I'm not your friend, and you are a ****ing prick. What your post tells me is that you have a very poor understanding of this subject and moreover, you cannot read a graph. Look again at the graph I posted...

    In the control, peak tension appears at mid range in terms of length..... so?:bash: Measure change in muscle length either directly or indirectly, measure force..... if the peak tension doesn't occur at the mid-range of the length, the muscle length/tension ratio is in the wrong place, according to Janda.

    Now, quit pestering people, grow a dick, wind your neck in and take the hint.
     
  11. timharmey

    timharmey Active Member

    Simon
    I have read those threads and I have got It !
     
  12. Nice work. What's next?
     
  13. DTT

    DTT Well-Known Member

    Sicknote

    You are just that :mad:

    Stop playing with peoples emotions when you have no idea who they are and what they are experiencing in their lives:mad:

    You could well be causing distress and hurt ....NOW F.U.C.K O.F.F and get back to the shyte hole from whence you came:mad:

    CRAIG BAN THIS TOSSER PLEASE, If not I will post over him.

    There is no place on the Arena for this sicko:mad:

    Cheers
    D :cool:
     
  14. timharmey

    timharmey Active Member

    To try and understand If cuboid mobilisation changes peroneous longus function.
    As an aside go see super 8 but stay till the final credits are run.
    Tim
     
  15. blinda

    blinda MVP


    Del won`t let anyone dirty get through.....
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZ2tluarzZs&feature=related


    How can you have any pudding, if you don't eat your meat?!
     
  16. OK, so how you going to assess peroneus longus function pre and post mobilisation?

    Do like the look of Super 8.
     
  17. timharmey

    timharmey Active Member

    Well , deep breath ,dont start getting nasty with me, but If a patient has limited dosiflexion at 4th /5th met , they will( in my experince) have a foot that you can adduct easily i.e you adduct it with your hand.Pop the cuboid and the 4th/ 5th Met move and the patients ability to resist adduction is improved ,is that because peroneous longus is able to "groove " on the cuboid?
    Tim
     
  18. And there lies the fundamental flaw in the methodology, it can't tell you what you seek to test. You can look at 4th and 5th ray motion and do a cuboid manipulation and it will tell you whether the manipulation has changed the motion in the 4th and 5 rays, it won't tell you about peroneus longus function. And even to do this study, you'll need to measure forefoot adduction stiffness pre and post manipulation and a have a control group too, but it still won't tell you anything about peroneus longus function.

    Now, if your hypothesis relates to the peroneus longus tendon position or movement within the peroneal grooove of the cuboid, you would need to look at the position / movement of the tendon pre and post manipulation- you could probably do this using ultrasound imaging.
     
  19. TimWhat did you get it got a bit confusing around here.
     
  20. timharmey

    timharmey Active Member

    That is intresting I could try the second bit, the ultrasound imaging.
    Thanks
    I have gathered that you are a stars Wars fan but what about Cool Hand Luke?
    Tim
     
  21. timharmey

    timharmey Active Member

    I spent the weekend reading the posts on gastroch/ peroneus brevis being supinators and feel I got the hang of it
    Tim
     
  22. efuller

    efuller MVP

    And the hang of it is that peroneus brevis is not a supinator and the muscles of the Achilles tendon are a direct supinator, but their effect at the ankle can create a net pronation moment because they primarily shift the center of pressure forward and this can create a larger pronation moment from the ground than the muscles create a direct supination moment.
     
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