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Hi

Any one up to speed on the ISA? I have been told that not only Podiatrists will need to register but all staff that come into contact with children and vulnerable adults.

I am in private practice so this will mean paying to have three receptionists to register as well as myself.

Initally I thought it would not apply to us but spoke to the society today and was told that yes it will apply to us. Could not get much hard information or answers to my questions ie what is the definition of vulnerable?

This scheme will be compulsory next year making it a criminal offence not to be registered and not checking on your employees.

Is it only me that thinks it is getting harder and harder to make a living with extra statutory regulations and red tape to contend with?



Zaffie

 

Hi Zaffie

I'm sure I will be corrected if I'm mistaken but do we all not undergo a criminal records check when we register with the HPC ?? I was under the impression that was part of the registration process as part of out job remit is to work with children and vulnerable adults.If the HPC are as they say "there to protect the public" then this I would have assumed, was an essential piece of bureaucratic practice?

I would have thought you were already safe but your 3 employees would have to register ( my wife has just had her clearance to help at our grandchildren's school)

No it's definatly not only you the same as the increased tax burden that is put on those already paying tax instead of the that are evading tax,and the endless EU politically correct bovine excrement is just making things impossible if you are an IPP :bang:

Just my take on it
Cheers
Derek

 

Hi Derek

It is my understanding that the ISA registration is in addition to every thing else. Extra expense and another layer of red tape and most seem oblious to its implications!!

Regards

 

Hi Zaffie
I would expect if that is the case, and it is mandatory, the HPC would include the cost for practitioners in next years fee's ??igs:

BUT in the real world probably yet again we will have to fund it from our practice along with cpd ,taurean EU excrement ,draconian tax laws ( but only if your not on benifits) ( but if you are well done I'll pay for it )
The end result is ultimately we will be charging £100 to do someones feet

They cant get them done on the NHS now and they cant afford the private fee ( because of the foregoing) so where do the patients in need go from there ??

I was at the Foot in diabetes conference a couple of weeks ago in London and came away very very disillusioned at the total dismissal of the IPP in the care of diabetics by the policy makers that were speaking. It would appear nurses are to take over the role of footcare ( albeit they seem to have a problem with taking a pts socks off to do a 10gm monofillament test)

I wonder if the ultimate aim is to make it so difficult to survive as an IPP they will get the "one size fits all mentality" in that way ?? BUT still allow the "cash only"visiting practitioners to carry on unhindered. I dont know but I'm with you on this one

Keep your chin up

Cheers
Derek

 

Hello all,

Yet another outgoing to add to the never ending list it seems! Bloody frustrating given that I would imagine that all of us currently only treat vulnerable adults or children when accompanied by a realtive/carer. Or is this not the case?

A friend today (she works as a carer in a local nursing home) mentioned that the 'chiropodist' visited the nursing homes residents today. 5 elderly, mentally infirm residents & 35 residential care clients to 'do their nails'.

I made a few enquiries RE: their name (she couldn't remember). She just said that each pt. was charged £10.00, all were in a circle in pt. lounge & the girl doing nails attended each pair of feet. Clipped nails, wiped the clippers on a paper kitchen towel & proceded to the next client!

I explained that treatment in this scenario is not that which would be provided by an HPC registered clinician she asked 'why?' ........:bang:

I also asked were any receipts provided? Erm, nope!


------> Bang head here <-------

Vent over.

Regards to all. :deadhorse:

 

Hi all

Derek-"The end result is ultimately we will be charging £100 to do someones feet "- sorry, I thought you were already! Just joking!!

If one applies common sense to the criteria, woud reception staff be required to undertake the clearance? They are not going to spend actual time with the patient are they? If you applied the rule to passing contact, surely everyone in the street or on the bus/tube would have to have to be checked?

I cannot find the original notification at the moment but I thought infrequent contact was not necessary nor if you had a carer in attendence? I may be totally wrong, just relying on memory which of course is not as reliable as it once was!

Regards
Cornmerchant

 

Hi Cornmerchant

Steady I think that statement is politically incorrect these days !!!


I don't know for sure either but I would assume it is ANYONE that comes into contact with the groups concerned ( the assumption being if you are in contact at any level you are in a position to carry out abuse) would be required to register???

One day the government will learn that none of this "regulation" works to prevent anything ( the nursery pedophile ring is a classic example) I don't know how to stop something that must be going on all the time, but is never noticed until someone is caught in the act . I would have thought better detection methods were more appropriate than burdening those that are doing the right things with yet more expense and bureaucracy

As I said just my take on it
Cheers
Derek

 

Hi All

I have been informed that it is everyone including reception etc that will need this registration.

We have till next year to register or face criminal prosecution

Regards

 

Hi Zaffie

If this is correct than I would assume we would be notified officially by the HPC and would hope the cost would be born by them out of our registration fee's ??igs:
We will see
Cheers
Derek

 

Hi
My understanding about this new 'tax', sorry safety net for the vunerable, is that it is under review............and a one off payment.............therefore I will wait until they have sorted themselves out and see if it still going to be around after next years election!!!!:wacko::bash:
It would be interesting to know what the definition of vunerable is though as even I feel vunerable sometimes
Wendy

 

I think the point is that reception staff would have access to personal details - addresses telephone nos etc - were you to employ a paedophile unknowingly they would see potential targets in the practice and would know where to stalk them if they so wished and it isn't hard to imagine it happening!

 

Unless I am mistaken ignorance of the law is no defence - by the way Del how are you mate?! P***ed off by the sound of it! Make the tax man pay it - charge it to the business

 

Hi Steve

No more than usual mate just get fed up with the nanny state making regulation upon regulation of which much dosent work anyway ( this particular secondary to the CRB check is I think an example) but produces yet more time in front of the computer rather than treating my patients and eventually puts my fee's up

I hear life's good with you ? well done dont let it change mate

Speak soon
Cheers
D