Welcome to the Podiatry Arena forums

You are currently viewing our podiatry forum as a guest which gives you limited access to view all podiatry discussions and access our other features. By joining our free global community of Podiatrists and other interested foot health care professionals you will have access to post podiatry topics (answer and ask questions), communicate privately with other members, upload content, view attachments, receive a weekly email update of new discussions, access other special features. Registered users do not get displayed the advertisements in posted messages. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our global Podiatry community today!

  1. Have you considered the Clinical Biomechanics Boot Camp Online, for taking it to the next level? See here for more.
    Dismiss Notice
Dismiss Notice
Have you considered the Clinical Biomechanics Boot Camp Online, for taking it to the next level? See here for more.
Dismiss Notice
Have you liked us on Facebook to get our updates? Please do. Click here for our Facebook page.
Dismiss Notice
Do you get the weekly newsletter that Podiatry Arena sends out to update everybody? If not, click here to organise this.

Is injecting adjacent inter-metatarsal spaces with ethanol risky?

Discussion in 'General Issues and Discussion Forum' started by Mart, Sep 4, 2009.

  1. Mart

    Mart Well-Known Member


    Members do not see these Ads. Sign Up.
    In the “Hughes et al” paper attatched on ethanol injection for neuromas it states on P 1537


    “As we stated in the Results section, in our series
    in the three patients who had surgery, we
    found the procedure was technically more demanding
    because of the degree of fibrosis
    present. Macroscopically the neuromas and
    proximal extension appeared fibrotic as did the
    neurovascular bundles in one case. The latter
    raises a potential problem with toe vascularity
    when injecting consecutive web space neuromas,
    but this was not borne out in practice.”

    Yet in the selection protocol it states

    “Forty patients were excluded because
    they had two lesions in the same foot . . . . . . .
    multiple lesions in the same foot were initially treated surgically
    in our local practice at the time of the study,
    hence their exclusion from this series.”

    So I am trying to figure out exactly what is being said here.

    My read on this is from reading the paper is:

    P1 The sclerosing action of the ethanol is likely to shrink neuroma volume by creating a more fibrous lesion.

    P2 This action could cause technical difficulty in preserving the vascular integrity of supplied toe(s) if surgery was subsequently indicated in “failed” cases.

    P3 Adjacent toes share a common vascular supply.

    C Do not inject 2 or more adjacent inter-metatarsal spaces with ethanol because theoretically the toe supplied by vessels from both adjacent spaces have elevated risk of subsequent ischemia if needing surgery.

    P= premise C = conclusion

    Did everyone else reach the same conclusion?

    Whilst this seems a valid arguement it is not clear if the treatment failures in this study were because the lesions before treatment were so highly fibrosed that they lacked capacity to be "shrunk".

    If I am understanding this correctly, potential problems theoretically could be mitigated since fibrosed lesions are distinctly hyperechoic on diagnostic ultrasound exam compared to typically hypoechoic lesions which likely contain more water content. The study however doesn’t discuss this.

    If, as it seems to me, the arguement is sound, then we should avoid injecting adjacent lesions if the sonographic appearance is hyperechoic in at least one of the spaces until further evidence is forthcoming.

    cheers

    Martin

    The St. James Foot Clinic
    1749 Portage Ave.
    Winnipeg
    Manitoba
    R3J 0E6
    Phone [204] 837 FOOT (3668)
    Fax [204] 774 9918
    www.winnipegfootclinic.com
     

    Attached Files:

Loading...

Share This Page