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New knee ligament

Discussion in 'Biomechanics, Sports and Foot orthoses' started by Simon Spooner, Nov 6, 2013.

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  1. Crazy Aug 2013 shows how much we still have to learn
     
  2. blinda

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    Liked the comment;

    There you were thinking you had only ruptured your ACL, eh?
     
  3. No, according to the MRI I had a total rupture of ACL, partial of PCL and a meniscal tear. I suspect the rest of the PCL "went" about a couple of months later when I was surfing since I felt it "pop" and had to drag myself onto the beach in "kin agony. Rugby is great.
     
  4. blinda

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    Ah, sorry. Forgot about the post injury PCL "popping". Looks like you can add ALL to the list now. Great indeed.
     
  5. Knees are crap joints.
     
  6. blinda

    blinda MVP

  7. ....for orthopedic surgeons...;)
     
  8. blinda

    blinda MVP

    Touché :drinks
     
  9. Nah, I'm waiting until I need surgery. At the moment my knee doesn't bother me, if I don't bother it. I actually played a game of rugby twelve months ago (my last game ever) with my knee held together with gaffer tape. I hadn't planned on playing but the boys were short of numbers so I loaned a pair of size 9 boots (I'm an 11) and played on the wing (out of the way). Ball came to me in first couple of minutes and I stepped off my dodgy knee only to find that someone had replaced my leg with some form of jelly. Start of the second half it got better: on a seriously muddy pitch the whole of the cleat plate from my right boot (my dodgy side) fell off and at this point I moved back to my preferred position of blindside flanker.... How we laughed in the bar latter (not). Great game, miss it daily.
     
  10. blinda

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  11. Craig Payne

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    duh! Its no new ligament. Twiiter and facebook etc are all over this; the media fell for the press release - ITS NOT NEW. It been documented for over a century.

    here is an abstract from Jan last yr talking about it:
    Amazing how much hype that this generated.
     
  12. Craig Payne

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    This funny. The press release that the gullible media lapped up had this headline: "Surgeons describe new ligament in the human knee "

    In the abstract of the research, the very first sentence says "In 1879, the French surgeon Segond described the existence of a ‘pearly, resistant, fibrous band’ at the anterolateral aspect of the human knee, attached to the eponymous Segond fracture" ... it been described since 1879. Nothing new!
     
  13. Craig Payne

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    ..and the ligament has its own wikipedia page!

    Anterolateral ligament

    The anterolateral ligament (ALL) is a ligament on the lateral aspect of the human knee, anterior to the fibular collateral ligament.[1]

    Perhaps the earliest account of the ALL was written by French surgeon Paul Segond in 1879, in which he described a ligamentous structure between the lateral femur and tibia.[2][3]

    Claes and Bellemans (2013) found that the ALL originates at the lateral epicondyle of the femur, and inserts at the anterolateral aspect of the proximal tibia.[1] However, Vincent et al. (2012) reported the origin to be the lateral femoral condyle.[4]

    1. ^ a b Claes, S.; Vereecke, E.; Maes, M.; Victor, J.; Verdonk, P.; Bellemans, J. (Oct 2013). "Anatomy of the anterolateral ligament of the knee.". J Anat. 223 (4): 321–8. PMC 3791125Freely accessible. PMID 23906341. doi:10.1111/joa.12087. 
    2. ^ Segond P (1879) Recherches cliniques et expérimentales sur les épanchements sanguins du genou par entorse. Progrès Médical (Paris) (accessible from [1]), 1-85.
    3. ^ "Recherches cliniques et expérimentales sur les épanchements sanguins du genou par entorse, par Paul Segond,". Retrieved November 6, 2013. 
    4. ^ Vincent, J. P.; Magnussen, R. A.; Gezmez, F.; et al. (January 2012). "The anterolateral ligament of the human knee: An anatomic and histologic study". Knee Surg Sports Traumatol Arthrosc. 20 (1): 147–52. PMID 21717216. doi:10.1007/s00167-011-1580-3. 
     
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  15. toughspiders

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    I totally hear you!
     
  16. Sicknote

    Sicknote Active Member

    They are when you treat them like crap.
     
  17. NewsBot

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    The Biomechanical Function of the Anterolateral Ligament of the Knee
    Erin M. Parsons, MS, Albert O. Gee, MD, Charles Spiekerman, PhD and Peter R. Cavanagh, PhD, DSc
    Am J Sports Med January 2, 2015
     
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    The Anterolateral Ligament
    An Anatomic, Radiographic, and Biomechanical Analysis

    Mitchell I. Kennedy et al
    Am J Sports Med April 17, 2015
     
  19. NewsBot

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    The Anterolateral Ligament Does Exist
    An Anatomic Description

    Stefano Zaffagnini et al
    Clinics in Sports Medicine; Article in Press
     
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