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Top 10 worst sports cheats ever

Discussion in 'Break Room' started by admin, Jul 14, 2009.

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  1. admin

    admin Administrator Staff Member


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    1. Ben Johnson, the doping dope stripped of his gold medal at the 1988 Olympics:

    2. Hansie Cronje, the cricketer who took the money and ran:

    3. Conspirators of the Fine Cotton scandal:

    4. The 1919 Chicago 'Black Sox' World Series baseball team:

    5. American Fred Lorz, who was first over the line in the 1904 Olympic marathon:

    6. Stella Walsh, Olympic women's athletics gold medallist in 1932:

    7. Spain's intellectually disabled basketball team, 2000 Paralympics:

    8. Diego Maradona's Hand of God goal, 1986 World Cup of football:

    9. Boris Onyshchenko, the athlete who scored when he liked:

    10. Big Philou, victim of a Melbourne Cup sting:

    Full story
     
  2. DaVinci

    DaVinci Well-Known Member

    11. The poms cheating by using delaying tactics in the Ashes test to avoid loosing.
     
  3. Craig Payne

    Craig Payne Moderator

    Articles:
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    I notice that the list was compiled by an Australian newspaper. They left off the "underarm" incident:

    Underarm bowling incident of 1981

    Australia's Trevor Chappell bowls underarm to New Zealand's Brian McKechnie while observed by keeper Rod Marsh and non-striker Bruce Edgar

    The underarm bowling incident of 1981 is a sporting controversy that took place on 1 February 1981, when Australia played New Zealand in a One Day International cricket match, the third in the best-of-five final of the 1980–81 World Series Cup, at the Melbourne Cricket Ground.[1]

    With one ball of the final over remaining in the match, New Zealand required a six to tie the match. To ensure that New Zealand were unable to achieve this, the Australian captain Greg Chappell instructed his bowler (and younger brother) Trevor Chappell to deliver the last ball to batsman Brian McKechnie underarm along the ground. Trevor did so, forcing McKechnie to play the ball defensively, meaning Australia won. This action, although legal at the time, was nevertheless widely perceived as being wholly against the traditional spirit of cricketing fair play.

    The outrage caused by the incident eventually led to an official amendment to the international laws of cricket to prevent it from occurring again.

    1. ^ "Cricinfo scorecard of the match". Aus.cricinfo.com. Retrieved 23 January 2013.
     
  4. Wendy

    Wendy Active Member

    And there was me thinking we were the 'whingers'
    :drinks
    Wendy
     
  5. Peter

    Peter Well-Known Member

    I was fooled into thinking that when it came down to Cricket, it was only the English (and Welsh) that disliked the Australian team.

    Not so.

    I am reliably informed that S.Africa and New Zealand both despise the Aussie Cricket Team.

    Wonder Why?:rolleyes:
     
  6. twirly

    twirly Well-Known Member

    Everyone seems to get all excited & vocal over a few fellas with a bat & ball so I thought I would have a peep from both perspectives: :wacko:

    The English view seems slightly less miffed than the Aussie one.

    Here was I thinking that sport was for honest athletes! :rolleyes:

    BBC News Magazine
    So my guess is that makes it all righty then :empathy:
     
  7. W J Liggins

    W J Liggins Well-Known Member

    Stop your bloody Aussie whinging!

    If Ponting had judged the declaration better, and/or put his pacemen on against the tail enders, the result would in all probability have been different. Anyway, for Mr Goslow and his team to cry 'foul' is rather like tarmac calling snow black.

    I predict that unhappily the Aussies will walk the series so you can stop crying into your tinnies and wait for Thursday.

    Enjoy the fact that Mark Webber deservedly (that is a word unknown to them down under) won the formula 1 race on Sunday, but he's not going to win the world championship. Jenson Button (Pommie bastard) will. Oh, and by the way, we won more medals than you at the last Olympics.

    Felicitations to all my friends in Australia!

    Bill Liggins
     
    Last edited: Jul 15, 2009
  8. Griff

    Griff Moderator

    Back to the original thread...

    For me one of the worst cheats in modern times is British sprinter Dwain Chambers. I don't think he should ever be allowed to run in competition again.
     
  9. Tuckersm

    Tuckersm Well-Known Member

    And how about the Greek sprinters Kenteris, the 200-meter gold medalist at the Sydney 2000 Olympics, and Thanou, the 100-meter silver medalist in Sydney, missed a drugs test at the Athens Olympics and later said they had crashed a motorcycle on their way to the athletes' village. Who did't quite get away with it.

    And Craig, while the underarm incident may have been poor sportsmanship, it was not cheating, as it was completely within the rules at the time!
     
  10. I can see we have no marathon runners in the crowd here.

    By far the biggest cheater in sports history was Rosie Ruiz who skipped the first 25 miles of the 1980 Boston Marathon (a year after I ran the race) to come in as "first" woman finisher in a record time of time of 2:31:56. Luckily, she was stripped of her "title" and now her name lives on in infamy within the marathon running community.
     
  11. what about 99% of the athletes from eastern europe in the 80`s most of them were on more high octain gear that a race car.

    Michael Weber
     
  12. stevewells

    stevewells Active Member

    I have to say that I have to restrain my language somewhat for fear of offending my australian colleagues and also because as an ashes series is in progress I am obliged to hate you for the next month or so - BUT don't be a bunch of whining wankers!!! - you all know as well as i do that twat face Ponting would have done exactly the same thing (with all due respect to a great batsman) - you Aussies will never ever have any right to criticise any sporting cheats after the underarm incident - that will remain forever in sporting history as the most cowardly act of sporting indiscretion (cant call it cheating as it was within the rules at the time) - YOU WILL NEVER LIVE IT DOWN
    I was a little embarrassed with the england time wasting thing but it will never match that incident that you lot so conveniently forget - This obviously does not include craig you reminded everyone of it!!
     
  13. W J Liggins

    W J Liggins Well-Known Member

    Or how about sledging itself?

    For anybody who is bothering to read this thread and does not already know, sledging has nothing to do with sitting on a device designed to go fast on snow; it is an Australian invention which consists of shouting insults to distract your opponent. The nasty bit is that the references are usually pointedly sexual and aimed against the opponents wife or children. Of course cobber Tucker (or any Australian) will tell you that it's within the rules of the game, as was underarm bowling, as was 6 bouncers per over, as was claiming for a catch which the skipper of the Aussie side knew he had failed to hold. Trouble is, they don't like it when they get it back, do they? Did you hear Punter whingeing over the time wasting incident? As an Pommie, I found it embarassing (another word Aussies don't understand), but, dear boys, it was all within the rules of the game!

    Dry yer eyes.

    Yet more felicitations to all my Australian friends

    Bill liggins
     
  14. Peter

    Peter Well-Known Member

    I forgot about the Michael Scumacher incident where he drove Damon Hill off the road. Schuey should have been an Aussie cricketer!
     
  15. I always find it very funny when English people start going on about sport.

    The problems seems to be that many of the most loved english sports were in fact invented in England but as time has gone on they have been really really crap at them.

    Cricket, rugby, tennis to name a few

    take tennis people might say that England have been ok lately but 1 bloke was from Cananda and the other is a Scot so it leaves little timmy henman who was not much chop except 1 wimbledon or then back to Fred Perry before we were all alive.

    Michael Weber
    expat oz in Sweden
     
  16. Peter

    Peter Well-Known Member

    Didn't hurt. Yup we are damn good at creating sport and giving it to the world to share. Leaves me with a nice feeling that on a global stage, we were at the genesis of international sport.

    Now if guzzling lager, swearing and bad tasting barbecued food was an olympic sport, you aussies would be right up there:rolleyes:

    How did Australia do in the last olympics in the cycling and rowing?
    Easy to pick a sport that your'e good at isn't it.

    Keep on sledging, I'm on my hols after tomorrow:drinks
     
  17. stevewells

    stevewells Active Member

    WHAT A LOAD OF CRAP!

    1. Nobody has ever said they were english
    2. Sport goes in cycles - I remeber when australia had a really crap cricket team - i didnt go on about it then - W indies used to be great now they are mediocre - typical aussie - getting off the subject - we were talking about cheating!! - and yes i do take exception to Michael Atherton being a pundit for Sky Sports - he was caught red handed (or dirty handed) - unforgiveable
    but a bit of gamesmanship happens not pretty but hey ho - if you had done that t to us I probably wouldve reacted the same way - but if my team ever does what your team did in '81 I would never support them again - G. Chappell lowest form of life!!
     
  18. Wendy

    Wendy Active Member

    I am wondering if Ian Poulters outfit in the Open today is a ploy to put off the opposition:dizzy:
    As to teams using the rules.....do Man Utd use the ref??????? I think so as if the opposition do they same they are the first to complain......
    Dwain Chambers cheated, admitted it, saw through his punishment and tried to rebuild his career - if that was an ordinary man in the street or musician would people be as harsh in their critisism?
     
  19. stevewells

    stevewells Active Member

    YEP - A CHEAT IS A CHEAT FULL STOP
     
  20. Griff

    Griff Moderator

    He didn't have much choice - he failed a drugs test. Let's not pretend he came out and told everyone for any reason other than he had no other option

    But thats just the point - he wasn't an ordinary man, he was a professional athlete...an Olympian... and I'm afraid if you are at the peak of your game and in a position where children and aspiring athletes look up to you then it is unforgivable. In my opinion he should ever be allowed to compete in competition or represent our country ever again. That is the punishnment which fits his crime.
     
  21. W J Liggins

    W J Liggins Well-Known Member

    See Mike

    We criticise our own when they cheat. Never heard an Aussie do that.

    By the way, you mention rugby. Who were runners up to an excellent team (SA) in the last world cup and the winners in the previous world cup. Was it Australia????? Nooooooo!

    Who invented whingeing in the bodyline test. Was it Australia????? Yesssssss!

    Anyway, good on you for getting back.

    Bill

    PS. What's the difference between Australia and an agar dish?

    There's more culture in an agar dish.
     
  22. Foot Traffic

    Foot Traffic Member

    I can't believe no one has mentioned a cyclist, especially since le Tour is on as we speak.

    Riis, Virenque, Pantani, Simpson, Millar, Landis, Rasmussen, Hamilton, Ulrich, ???Armstrong??? the list can go on for much longer than this.

    Pretty much every tour podium since 2000 - I think that stat is correct.

    Recently read the book "The death of Pantani" a very intersting account of how to structure the drug taking regime for a professional cyclists season - thats pretty blatant cheating in my mind.

    And how about that African runner who at halfway tagged his twin brother in to finish the race. They obviously didn't plan it too well because they were wearing their watches on different wrists.
     
  23. austypod

    austypod Member

    Andrew Strauss, to claim that catch, disgraceful!
     
  24. stevewells

    stevewells Active Member

    So you're either a girl or you never played cricket or you didnt watch the whole test match. When you take a catch like that close to the ground you cant always tell whether it went in clean or not - THE SAME WAY THAT HAURITZ DID IN THE SAME MATCH DUMMY - now I agree it was questionable - they both were and the strauss catch should have been referred to the 3rd umpire - and i reckon it would have been not out so you need to have a go at the umpires there - plenty of cricketers do the same thing including Ponting and Symonds (see you tube) - it has a tendency to even out in the end

    Anyway this is typical of some australians - you just cant take losing - i was wondering when one of you was going to say that - i thought it was strange that the only aussie comment so far was to congratulate us - what you fail to mention is that in this test match you were totally outplayed - why cant you just say that - there are 3 more tests and youre going to come back at us and i would be disappointed if you didnt so get a life you plonker!
     
  25. Louise B

    Louise B Member

    The cyclists had to be mentioned given all the high prifile doping. Lets hope that is in the past and the sport can move on. Certainly the brits are doing well in this years tour, although Cavandish was punished for cheating the other day (did he block or did the road narrow???)

    I am just hoping Bradley Wiggins can win on Ventoux for the memory of Tom Simpson and that he can overtake Lance Amstrong on the GC and deny him a podium place. He should have stayed 'retired'.
     
  26. W J Liggins

    W J Liggins Well-Known Member

    Welcome Austypod

    I agree in general with Steve's outspoken comments (but then I would, wouldn't I?)

    Even though the wicket was questionable, the ump checked with the square leg ump before giving it out. So Strauss, and the two umps thought that it was out - all of them had close, 3 dimensional views which we telly viewers didn't. However, even if Strauss KNEW (emphasis not shouting) that he had not caught the ball cleanly and cheated (which I find intolerable in an England player) then he had a first class teacher in your snivelling Punter didn't he?

    Drown your sorrows with a tinny

    Pommie Bastard Bill
     
  27. austypod

    austypod Member

    Thanks Steve,
    Yep I am a man and have played many games of cricket. When I have fielded at slips, you can always tell the catches you take because the ball actually lands on top of your fingers close to the ground, not bouncing into your hand. I just think Strauss has lost some integrity with the time wasting and claiming the catch.
    But hats off to you, outplayed for most of the test match. We have no answer to Flintoff. Why would he retire?!!! And of course your tail enders pasting our bowlers all over the park. Bring back warnie! Oh, and I do have a life, in wonderful sunny Australia!

    Pommie bastard bill, I'm not sure how good a view the square leg umpire would have had with wicket keeper in his line of sight.
    Bring on the 3rd test!!
     
  28. stevewells

    stevewells Active Member

    Hmmm! - got anything to add about Hauritz then??????? If we're being consistent of course. Is he a cheating aussie with no integrity and if so where did he learn it?
     
  29. W J Liggins

    W J Liggins Well-Known Member

    Hi Austypod

    I wondered about the square leg ump myself, his position was not clear on the box. I suppose though, that the ump standing at the wicket must have thought that he did have a view, otherwise he would not have checked with him and would have gone straight to the 3rd ump. I think that if that had been the case then the batsman would have had the benefit of the doubt. It's some time since I've played, but you must admit that with the ball moving fast towards you and your fingers on the ground, it is sometimes difficult to be sure whether the ball has touched the ground first.

    I don't think that the ACC are doing the Aussies any favours by telling them not to behave aggressively. That's the way they play and they're always dangerous with their backs to the wall. Having said that, a few years ago, sledging was seen (here anyway) to be cheating, but the game has become more professional - no more gentlemen versus players now - the England players can look after themselves, so it's not the issue that it was.

    Steve's points remain good. If Punter and Hauritz cheat, then you shouldn't whinge when you get it back. Anyway, with Pietersen gone and Brett Lee maybe returning you'll probably walk the next one. Remember Flintoff - perhaps our most competitive player - comforting Lee at the last Edgbaston Ashes test? See, we can still teach you a lesson about sportsmanship.

    'Australians Can't Play Cricket.'

    Pommie Bastard Bill
     
  30. N.Knight

    N.Knight Active Member

    Rio ferdinand, seems to have got away with things lightly.

    Also, linford christie OBE. That broke my heart was a child as I am a ex 100m Man, so when I was at school and read on the internet my self he was a drugs cheat was upset and put Mr A Senna down as my sport hero with a big black line through linford christie for a time capsule.

    Nick
     
  31. In fairness to the Australian performance in the recent olympics, one has to consider the genetic disadvantage. They are, after, all descended in part from the criminals who failed to run away fast enough a few hundred years ago and actually got caught and deported. The faster ones got away and stayed here, or went to America.;):D

    As for the Americans, well they just plain cheated. Mr Phelps may have been tested for drugs but has anyone actually tested him for "being a porpoise"? They have some amazing plastic surgeons out there, for my money they just attatched a couple of arms and legs to a dolpin and stuck a mask with a voice synthsiser in there. Just a guess.
     
  32. wdd

    wdd Well-Known Member

    What about the 'BEST' sports cheats?

    Using 'best' in this context to mean most successful, ie they haven't been revealed so far.

    A bit more difficult to list but undoubtedly far more numerous than the 'Worst' sports cheats and possibly more pernicious and ultimately destructive than the worst cheats.

    What is the effect, on a sport, of finding out, possibly years after the event, that someone was cheating? Nick says that it 'broke my heart as a child'. Was that the end of it Nick? Was your love of athletics, sports, otherwise left in tact?

    Is there a growing disenchantment with respect to sport as a result of cheating, of one kind or another, and the increasingly astronomical sums of money associated with success at the top level? Are top level sports people becoming separated from their supporters?

    What does supporting a football team mean when none of the players belong to the surrounding area and the quality of the team depends almost exclusively on the amount of money available to to by managers, coaches, players?

    Go boy go.

    Bill
     
  33. W J Liggins

    W J Liggins Well-Known Member

    But where do you draw the line? For years, pretty well all the top athletes have taken it easy in the heats - Usain Bolt for example. In fairness, they haven't deliberately lost but who's to say what has gone unnoticed on previous occasions.
     
  34. N.Knight

    N.Knight Active Member

    Yes was left in tact, I was a teenager at the time so got over it quickly carried on sprinting untill my coach upset me and someone handed me a hockey stick and a bike. Though do regret giving up sprinting.
     
  35. Rob Kidd

    Rob Kidd Well-Known Member

    Am I the only one to remember the Observer (UK Sunday newspaper) 1968 around the World non-stop and solo race? In fact there was only one finisher - Sir Robin Knox Johnston. The cheat though, was Donald Crowhurst - who never went around the world at all - but hung around in the South Atlantic killing time that would have been spent in the Southern Ocean. When the person that would have come first sank (Nigel Tetley), he would then have come first and realised that his log books would not stand close scrutiny, he jumped over the side; his boat was found adrift in the Carribean a few days later. Rob
     
  36. Rosie Ruiz was my favorite sports cheat. She claims to have run the 1980 Boston Marathon and won the event, but she obviously didn't. She probably drove part of the course. After Rosie Ruiz, however, most international road races established methods to discover cheaters who did not run the whole course.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosie_Ruiz
     
  37. W J Liggins

    W J Liggins Well-Known Member

    He was nuts though. That's not an excuse, just makes him a mad cheat rather than a cheat.

    Bill
     
  38. Rob Kidd

    Rob Kidd Well-Known Member

    "He was nuts though. That's not an excuse, just makes him a mad cheat rather than a cheat."

    He was certainly on a different plane by the time he topped himself, and was certainly a little prone to "high jinx" as a young adult (he was cashiered out of the airforce), but he probably went nuts during the trip. At the time of his death I was sailing down the English channel and over Biscay in a 30' trimaran (he was a trimaran person); it left quite an impression on me.
     
  39. Craig Payne

    Craig Payne Moderator

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