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A big thankyou to the podiatry arena

Discussion in 'United Kingdom' started by Guttee, Oct 7, 2010.

  1. Guttee

    Guttee Welcome New Poster


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    On monday this week, the day before my 2nd appointment at 'The clinic' i decided to do a quick search on Les Bailey as me and my wife had a bad vibe following my previous appointment. As we were desperate for a fix to my 10 years of footpain i had originally turned away when the cost had been read out for 4 pairs £2200 but feeling desperate i decided to go back.
    All i can say is thankyou to Google and the podiatry arena after reading all the posts about his previous company i cant believe he's back in business doing EXACTLY what he was doing before, pressure sales stc
    A very close call for me but thousands won't be so lucky.
     
  2. wotsits

    wotsits Welcome New Poster

    I have had numerous patients whom have mentioned the clinic to me. Upset and saddened by the hard sales and poor results. When I researched and found who the so called "Dr" was it did not surprise me in the slightest. Mr Bailey back again!!!

    All the patients had been pressured into 3 or 4 pairs at a cost of over £2000. None of the patients gained relief. It is a disgrace that this monster can get away with it time and time again!

    I'm surprised he has not found a way to convince the vulnerable patients in severe pain who seek his services to get a matching pair made for their hands or something equally as useless to get more profits.

    I would like to make a decent Orthotic device for him to run off as far away as possible and crawl under rock for good. AND I would even only charge him half his price to do so!!!!
     
  3. I seriously doubt that. From what I've seen of "Dr" Baileys insoles, and I've seen a few, they are not particularly different from those issued by other podiatrists. Not better, not worse. I suspect his success rate is therefor much as anyone elses. His prices and marketing are extraordinary. His products are not.

    The thing I find distasteful about Les is the way he markets his products and methods as being special. They are not. The ASA declared his claims to be unsupported and required that he remove them from his adverts, however they cannot audit what he puts on the internet, nor what he says to clients.

    It sounds to me like Mrs guttee has the right idea. If it looks too good too good to be true, it probably is. Plantar fasciitis is generally a chronic, functional injury, much like back pain. There is solid evidence that orthoses can help. But an orthotic, at base, is a bent bit of plastic. It cannot rebuild damaged tissue, it cannot heal tissue. It cannot break fiberous adhesions. It has no antinflammatory properties. It cannot resorb osteophytes. There will always be some patients who cannot be cured (or even helped) with orthoses, no matter how they are designed.

    Some people with back pain get relief from osteopathy. If an osteopath told you that he alone could guarentee his treatment would cure your pain when others had failed, but that you must pay him thousands for him to do so, would you believe it?

    Sadly, desparate people often will!

    It is possible that les has discovered some magical variant on the shape of his bits of bent plastic which works where all else fails. It is possible that he alone knows what this shape is, and that this shape is worth a 4 figure pricetag. But given the millions of pairs of orthoses which have been designed over the years, and the thousands of hours of research, study and trial and error in "mainstream" podiatry, does it seem likely?

    But I'm glad Pod arena helped crystalise your thinking guttee. Now go tell Mrs Guttee she was right all along and you should have trusted her instincts from the get go. ;) She'll like that.
     
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