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Smokers don't believe cigarettes are bad for your health

Discussion in 'Break Room' started by NewsBot, Dec 28, 2007.

  1. NewsBot

    NewsBot The Admin that posts the news.

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    New research released by the Cancer Society of Victoria shows 6 out of 10 smokers down play the health risks of smoking.

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  2. twirly

    twirly Well-Known Member

    I am fairly sure that the majority view on smoking is that it is bad for your health.

    I see that this is 'Australia news'. However our press perpetuate similar news on a regular basis. (United Kingdom).

    Smokers are the 'lepers' of today. Rightly so or not? Who will be left in this clean world we are making?

    Ageing anti nuclear protestors with 'Ban the Bomb'' T-shirts?

    The government in many countries send a very mixed message to smokers: Namely. ''We will keep it legal, make you stand out in a crowd. Keep you in the cold & rain to be ridiculed by others. We will refuse you healthcare if you continue to participate in your filthy habit. We will brand you a theif of NHS resourses when others (with blameless lives) need the resources smokers are taking away in treatment costs''.....

    But! why then is it still legal???

    Yes, I believe smoking is very bad for your health. Yes I also believe it can cause grave consequences to lungs, feet , heart etc etc etc......

    However I also believe the governments of the world will be searching elsewhere for revenue collection when cigarettes, cigars etc are a thing of the past.

    Higher taxes on alcohol? Now theres a product that is also bad for us.

    Higher taxes on income (to pay for the extras added to our ageing population) eg. healthcare, residential care.......

    Higher taxes on fuel? Maybe even bring the USA into line with the UK? :eek:

    Would love to read others thoughts on this.

    Are we a little old for nannies or should every individual embrace this clean, risk free life dictated by our ''betters''?

    Just thought may provide an interesting debate.

    Happily rowing my boat :sinking:
     
  3. zaffie

    zaffie Active Member

    Twirly
    Agree wholeheartedly with your sentiments. What worries me is where will it all end? Who will the next "leper" be? the obese? ban all junk food? Drug addicts?

    "Are we a little old for nannies or should every individual embrace this clean, risk free life dictated by our ''betters''?"

    Our EU legislators have set up sealed smoking rooms for their own use.(Reuters UK)
    I believe that the members bar in Parliament still allows smoking.
    Animal farm?:confused:
     
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  5. twirly

    twirly Well-Known Member

    Simon,

    I clicked on the 'PLAY'' for the video but says: video no longer available?

    Something I did :confused:

    Or (more likely) bloody puter again! :craig:

    Happy New Year x
     
  6. twirly

    twirly Well-Known Member

    I love the new ---> :craig:

    spesh as it's called craig.

    We know it aint weely U though Craig (cos its pulling its <coughs> hair )

    <titters>
     
  7. Three words. Reverse. Availability. Heuristic.

    In the words of forest gump, "And thats all i have to say about that"

    The government loves taxing things which people CHOOSE to do, smoking, gambling, etc. The fact that they choose to do them means they don't tend to whinge so bitterly and the press can't run stories about single mums on the breadline who feed they're children on dustbin scraps due being over taxed. £9.3 billion squid per year is a lot to find!

    Is it hypocritical to critise a group of people in one wheezey breath whilst sleeping on a huge pile of used £20's and lighting their cigars with rolled up £50's from that same group? Who can tell.

    Will banning smoking in pubs make less people start smoking? Time will tell.

    Knowing the average teenager the best way to stop them smoking would be to make it compulsary!

    I'll stick to solvent abuse. Its still socially acceptable. In fact i get paid to do it! Orthotics labs are cool. But after 8 hours of fumes you do get a bit distant:wacko:.

    Regards
    Robert
     
  8. twirly

    twirly Well-Known Member

    Thanks for that Simon,

    & top tip Robert,

    DON'T INHALE (its bad for you) :rolleyes:

    Whatever our vices may be, just goes to prove we're all heading in the same general direction.

    New years resolution anyone? :cool:

    Not me though, I gave em up (resolutions that is)

    :drinks
     
  9. zaffie

    zaffie Active Member

    Fab video :D

    I fondly remember the days as a student inhaling those wonderful fumes as half the time the fume cupboard wasn't working:dizzy:

    Healthy and prosperous new year to all:drinks
     
  10. admin

    admin Administrator Staff Member

    Sorry Simon, do not know what happened there - they should work (will look into it further)
    I was wondering how long befiore someone noticed that :drinks
     
  11. Craig Payne

    Craig Payne Moderator

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    Classic example of the simplistic Health Belief Model at work. In that model, one of the predictors of undertaking a health protective behaviour (ie stop smoking) is the personal perception that the behaviour (ie smoking) is posing a risk (given the research above, its obviously not perceived as such, by those undertaking the behaviour)
     
  12. W J Liggins

    W J Liggins Well-Known Member

    No, that's not totally necessary Craig.

    Here in the politically correct U.K. we employ Ministers of Health and Prime Ministers to tell us what we should be perceiving. For instance, our great leader has just determined that the health service will, in future, be based on prevention, not cure. This, he assures us, will require that we all take a degree of responsibility for our own health. Fair enough, but, if you smoke or if you are obese, treatment will be denied you.

    The problem is, who decides? The entire English rugby union team (runners up, wrld cup, previously champions) are by definition obese because their body/mass index says so. If people really want to smoke (I don't) who should deny them that right? What about other recreational drugs, eg. alcohol, as Twirly mentions. What then about dangerous sports? What's dangerous? Rugby? What about soccer? Plenty of met #s there. Diving, sailing, caving - the list goes on. What about social sports leading to STDs?

    We all recognise that these things can be bad for our health but it will be governments and insurance carriers who will determine what is really 'bad'.

    Happy New Year

    Bill

    :drinks
     
  13. Dido

    Dido Active Member

    Hi folks,
    This is all geting very scary ?1984?
    Now we have DNA testing available that can tell if an individual carries the gene for a particular disease. Who is going to do what, with that information? Shall unfortunate individuals be denied medical insurance or employment because they are a bad risk healthwise?
    As for the government anti-smoking policy, well, IMO it's just posturing to the health lobby. Smokers die younger and often don't stay around long enough to collect their pensions, what a saving for the treasury! On top of that there is all that lovely tax on ciggies to be collected.
    Excuse my cynicism, and yes, I used to smoke, gave up 15 years ago.....
    regards
    Dido
     
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