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Supervising Students

Discussion in 'Teaching and Learning' started by Lauren84, Jul 22, 2009.

  1. Lauren84

    Lauren84 Member


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    Hi all,
    Just needing some advice with supervising student Podiatrists.
    I am under the impression that students are not allowed to do anything podaitrically without a qualified Podaitrist being there to supervise.
    Is this correct?
    Ive had an incidence where a student undertook patient treatment without a supervising Podiatrist in the building - but was told to go ahead by the practice manager.
    I forsee this as a huge no no and im not happy that the student proceeded with treatment anyway - they should have known not to be able to do anything without a supervising pod being there.
    Where should I take this to now?
    Do I inform the students university? Do I discuss this with my boss and practice manager??
    Any help would be great!
     
  2. DaVinci

    DaVinci Well-Known Member

    What state/country are you in?

    However, it all depends on what your insurance company says. Also check with the contract you have with the University.
     
  3. Lauren84

    Lauren84 Member

    Im in NSW - Australia
     
  4. DAVOhorn

    DAVOhorn Well-Known Member

    In our practice the students look and answer or not questions on what they see and what they might do for pt.

    They do not treat any patients.:butcher:

    we also judge them on the core competencies as defined in their assessment paperwork.

    usually interpersonal skills , attitude, time keeping, basic knowledge of anatomy, bio mech, medicine, drugs and t/t modalities for presenting symptoms and pathologies.

    we have two 2nd year students with us this week...

    regards David
     
  5. Cameron

    Cameron Well-Known Member

    Lauren84

    The responsibility falls to the university to make clear to all parties what behaviours will take place whilst on placement. This would need to be agreed by the staff at the placement site as well as meet all public health and insurance requirements . This is normally done by a placement education co-ordinator prior to commencement of the academic year. Both students and staff should be made aware of their roles and tasks and where patients are treated they too should be informed of the situation. Depending on the seniority of the student will determine whether they observe only, participate under supervision, or proceed with minimal intervention.

    I have had the opportunity to observe clinical education in several countries across the higher education sector and seen some excellent examples. However it is a complex system and not always as good as it could be. I would go as far as to say clinical placement education is the weakest link a the structured curriculum. This is not intended as a criticism of individuals clinicians or universites per se but it is an aspect which is not always given serious consideration.

    toeslayer
     
  6. sharonfrank

    sharonfrank Welcome New Poster

    Hi! Though I am a fott care nurse and not a podiatrist, my comment is limited to nursing practice. In nursing, students are definitely NOT allowed to perform any procedures without the presence of a field instructor in the vacinity. I highly suspect the same is true for podiatry. In nursing, the student is working under the field instructor's license, and that too, is probably the same in podiatry.
     
  7. Tuckersm

    Tuckersm Well-Known Member

    this is taken from the Victorian Reg Boards policy on Podiatry Assistants, but is equally applicable to students
     
  8. Tuckersm

    Tuckersm Well-Known Member

  9. Tuckersm

    Tuckersm Well-Known Member

    Cameron,

    you may find that such things are trying to change, at least in Victoria, as the Department of Human Services has set up a clinical placement website and is attempting to better coordinate things.

    Podiatry however is far behind Medicine, Nursing and Physiotherapy, who all have developed clinical schools. Hopefully LaTrobe's proposal for 5 Allied Health clinical schools across Victoria will further improve things for podiatry.
     
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