Welcome to the Podiatry Arena forums

You are currently viewing our podiatry forum as a guest which gives you limited access to view all podiatry discussions and access our other features. By joining our free global community of Podiatrists and other interested foot health care professionals you will have access to post podiatry topics (answer and ask questions), communicate privately with other members, upload content, view attachments, receive a weekly email update of new discussions, access other special features. Registered users do not get displayed the advertisements in posted messages. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our global Podiatry community today!

  1. Have you considered the Clinical Biomechanics Boot Camp Online, for taking it to the next level? See here for more.
    Dismiss Notice
Dismiss Notice
Have you considered the Clinical Biomechanics Boot Camp Online, for taking it to the next level? See here for more.
Dismiss Notice
Have you liked us on Facebook to get our updates? Please do. Click here for our Facebook page.
Dismiss Notice
Do you get the weekly newsletter that Podiatry Arena sends out to update everybody? If not, click here to organise this.

Sexy walks 'keep men off scent'

Discussion in 'Break Room' started by NewsBot, Nov 8, 2007.

  1. NewsBot

    NewsBot The Admin that posts the news.

    Articles:
    1

    Members do not see these Ads. Sign Up.
    The BBC are reporting:
    Sexy walks 'keep men off scent'
    Full story
     
  2. markjohconley

    markjohconley Well-Known Member

    Couldn't let this one pass!
    "The women ... were ... with their knees closer together."
    .... that always works!

    "... you have to be already living with, or close to, the woman, so this constrains the man into daily attendance on a woman."
    ... does this mean, like, getting them cups of tea all the time?
     
  3. Cameron

    Cameron Well-Known Member

    netizens

    Interesting piece of work. Usually what is termed a 'sexy walk' is akin to Trendelberg's sign and some anthropologists consider this to hold the attention of primal predators who observe the indivual as vulnerable. In some this may trigger a sexual response in others they see physical vulnerability, and others an attraction to protect the individual. All in the eye of the beholder.

    To that effect it would be useful to know how the men were selected and whether this screening was taken into consideration.

    Research has also shown when males are exposed to ' sexy pictures" (overt or subliminal) they will describe whatever is presented next, no matter how innocent, as being sensual in some way. If the men were given examples of a sexy walk prior to the experiement this may have added bias.

    >The women who were most fertile at the time of the experiment walked with fewer hip movements and with their knees closer together.

    Not having read the article in full, I can only assume the women least fertile at the time of the experiement were experiencing menstration.

    Associated abdominal discomfort may in part account for conscious gait changes as opposed to a subconscious social adjustment. In many primitive socities menstrating women (and married women in non Christian society) would be confined for the time of menses.

    So the statement, "it would make sense for them to advertise attractiveness on a broad scale when they are not fertile." would be difficult to support, anthropologically. It may be however infer women from the group of subjects have opted to disguise their physiological circumstance in oder to participate in the study. To that end it would be most informative to be aware of subject selection process and preparation.

    toeslayer




    in modern society this observation holds some truth.
     
  4. markjohconley

    markjohconley Well-Known Member

    exactly
     
  5. toughspiders

    toughspiders Active Member

    Interesting, on a side note
    Chinese footbinding, i read some years back, that one of the attractions to it, was the fact that it altered the gait so much it toned the pelvic muscles!!! Hence more pleasurable for you males!
     
  6. Cameron

    Cameron Well-Known Member

    toughspiders

    >Hence more pleasurable for you males!

    Ancient Chinese culture was very egalitarian when it came to the pleasures of sex. Procreation in many Eastern religions, including Hinduism, is thought of as a high form of worship. Prior to Confucius, Chinese beliefs were very humanistic and hightening sexual pleasure was not considered salacious, as it might be seen today. The long term effect of footbinding with gait alteration not only tightened the pelvic floor but also increased the labial folds with hightened sensitivity. The plantar aspect of the arch of the feet also is thought to have become incredibly sensitive. Suffice when using frottage (rubbing) and cupping the member between the arches, both parties were thought to have derived equal sensual pleasure. In ancient China woman had legal rights to be sexually satisfied by their partner. And there were officials designated to investigate all claims. The idea was to encourage procreation.

    toeslayer
     
  7. twirly

    twirly Well-Known Member

    Tsk Mark you missed the point completely. The women walked with their knees close together to prevent to hoards of sex starved men from ravishing them in the high street at lunch time! :eek:

    I honestly don't know how you men resist the urge to throw every fertile, wiggly bummed female to the ground & attempt to procreate immediately. :rolleyes:

    Personally I think the women in Q were suffering from ''hungry arse'' syndrome.

    The thinking behind this piece of personal research (done in the pub by the way to attract as many views as possible) is that during a womans (lady time) BIG pants are the order of the day thereby effecting a comfortable gait pattern. :D

    However during non lady times women wear a plethora of more pleasurable (to the eye not the arse) undergarments: hungry bum = antalgic gait.

    Cups of tea! Pher!!!!

    Regards,
     
  8. markjohconley

    markjohconley Well-Known Member

    twirly, thankyou for sharing, i'm learning soooooo much from podiatry-arena ...
    my wife, looking over my shoulder, is making noises of approval, muttering "Ahh, she' knows what she's talking about!"
     
  9. toughspiders

    toughspiders Active Member

    Thankyou Toeslayer.

    It is however some time (years) since i researched the matter of footbinding and my materials are up in the loft.

    I do not, however, remember reading any documents that stated it made sex more pleasurable for the female. I do vaguely recall it being mentioned that it made the female "to be more virgin like" pelvically speaking. Of which, i cannot imagine it being pleasurable.

    If you have researched the subject i would be interested in your research materials. So - if you have any can i scrounge them?

    Thanks

    Bex
     
  10. Cameron

    Cameron Well-Known Member

    Bex

    Foobinding came to an end with the rise of Communist China and by then the small feet (Lotus feet) were an obvious sign of the privilage classes. Mao's soldiers looked to the feet to identify the enemies of the State. There are communities of older people with bond feet in rural areas who live a reasonably normal life having worked as laborours all their adult life. When the Protestant misionaries like, Gladys Ailwood discovered footbinding was taking place, prior to the Second World War they tried to stop the practice and unbound the feet, condeming many women to a life of misery. These are the ladies frequently described in Chinese literature being acarried around on the backs of their relatives.

    Neither the religous organisations nor the Communist approved of the reasons for sexual reasons for footbinding and subsequently played down this aspect. The Western World were privvy to the story of the little Empress born with club feet (probably a myth) by way of explanation, and the Communists contented themself with footbinding as a clear indication of "Western" decadence. Subsequently with both organisations in total denial the literature of the period and immediately after, promulgates myth .

    Recently however the Communists have realised the importance of the social history of their diverse culture and opened up more to closer scrutiny the habit of footbinding. Beverley Jackson is an investigative journalist and author from California who has written a series of books on the subject in recent years.

    Splendid Slippers is a good place to start. http://www.silcom.com/~bevjack/slippers2.html

    William Rossi in his brilliantly toe curlingly funny book the Sex Life of the Foot and Shoe also gives a chapter over to footbinding with many other references.

    My academic interest relates to the psycho-social aspects of shoe design in the Middle Ages during syphilis epidemics. I am keen to associate shoes/feet with safe sex and hence look for evidence in contempory shoe design and shoe wearing habits.

    http://podiatry.curtin.edu.au/history.html

    I have a paper published in the UK podiatry journal specifically on footbinding and another on long toed shoes. Over the years I have spoken on related topics at various international conferences. Sadly pods are less interested in the topic, (well I have never been invited to a Pod Conference) and I usually address fashion conferences and sexology conventions.

    You may like to have a look at the poster on long toed shoes which is the occidental half of shoes for sex . The key time in history is the 11th century when mens shoes in Europe got longer and women's feet in China got smaller. My hypothesis follows the logic it was caused by the presence of epidemics caused sexually transmitted disease.

    http://podiatry.curtin.edu.au/LongToedShoe_hi_res.pdf

    Off to the Sunday markets now

    toeslayer
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Nov 10, 2007
  11. toughspiders

    toughspiders Active Member

    Hi Toeslayer

    I must say my interest has been rekindled!

    I considered doing a literature review of Footbinding for my dissertation 6 years ago but was advised against it due to the lack of published accredited works. I did quite a bit of reading around the area (obviously not nearly as much as you!)

    I ended up doing a extended (very extended) literature review on "Evolution of the foot", entitled "From Grasp to Ground". It took me and world and a day to write what i call a "bible". But it paid off in the end and boy was it interesting.

    I will certainly check out those resources you have mentioned.

    Thanks
    Bex
     
Loading...

Share This Page