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I wonder anybody has been to dry needling course recently and would recommend a good training course for podiatrist?
Thanks million
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https://www.activespineandsport.com/trigger_point_dry_needling.php -
Yes, Blinda. I've checked out a few 2-day courses in Sydney but they are for Physio. So I wonder if there are any good one just for lower limb.
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Hi Ahc,
You wrote:
I am a podiatrist who has been also qualified as an acupuncturist for over 20 years and providing workshopps for podiatrists when I can interrupt my practice over the past 7 years in Australia, UK and Ireland.
"Dry Needling' has never been universally defined and usually is meant to refer to using acupuncture needles to release myfascial trigger points and/or to signify that acupuncture needles are being used but not to treat in the traditional chinese system. I will mention that needling trigger points nevertheless was definitely recorded in the chinese texts. Personally, I prefer to call what we may do with needling as "wetsern medical acupuncture" as there are more acupuncture techniques that are also useful for a range of condtions that podiatrists are often encountering.
PersonallyI like to emphasise the medical competency that podiatrists have that sets them apart from most of the other allied health professions due to our training in skin penetration, injection techniques, wound healing and surgery.
Recently I have come across training from other professions in 'dry needling' that has included needling through clothing (to save time) and multiple use of each needle on the same person. Podiatrists are generally shocked to hear of these practices but have been attending these courses and possible being convinced that it is OK.
Anyway, I'm always happy to discuss this modality more.
I do have workshops coming up in Galway and Huddersfield in October, Perth, Western Australia in September and Sydney in December. The northern hemisphere workshops are approved by the SCP for Acupuncture Certification for insurance purposes. Unfortunately certification is not required in Australia and possibly this explains how unsatisfactory practices are also being taught.
If you are interested in finding out more, please let me know and I will pass on more information.
Cheers
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Hi Shane,
Thank you for your information.
I did actually check on your website while I searched online. However there's no info regarding the date you would be in Sydney. I have come across a lot of patients with chronic AT/shin splints pain and like to learn more of alternative treatment.
I will love to find out more if you can send me some info.
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The Sydney dates are just being confirmed with the Association.
If you could advise me of your email contact details we can put you onto our notification list.
Cheers
Shane -
I'll give Shane another plug.
I did his course 3 years ago and found his knowledge and skill in this area to be outstanding. His teaching method was excellent and very practical, and I was able t utilise the skills he taught me over the 2-day course the very next day I was in clinic. -
Thanks very much.
I am concerned that we are sometimes not given the respect we deserve by some other professions and tto often meekly accept being put down.
Cheers
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Undiagnosed shin pain is often best referred to as "shin splints" as the appropriate umbrella term... we know 'exactly' what the term refers to and is particularly meaningful in the context used.
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goodluck changing that (shin splints) definition in the world's dictionaries...
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I`m with Steve on this. Or, maybe we should go back to diagnosing met head capsulitis/plantar plate tear/freibergs` infarction/etc as metatarsalgia? No, wait. Let`s diagnose all forefoot pain as `stone bruise`. Who needs an accurate diagnosis anyway?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metatarsalgia
Just `cos it`s in a dictionary, doesn`t mean we should be using ill-defined terminology...IMHO -
"Shin splints" is no longer an acceptable term for medical professionals to use to describe the leg pain that occurs with exercise or sports activities. Rather the currently recommended term is now "exertional leg pain".
Here is the basic list of differential diagnoses for exertional leg pain:
Tibial or fibular stress fractures
Chronic exertional compartment syndrome
Arterial or nerve entrapment
Deep vein thrombosis
Fascial herniations
Muscle strains or tears
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Then in that context, neither is Plantar Fasciitis an acceptable term to describe heel pain....
Maybe im just a realist where political correctness doesnt really help :hammer: :boohoo:
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Shin splints means nothing. -
umbrella terminology
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`Umbrella` terminology refer to many syndromes under one umbrella (condition), such as AIDS, fibromyalgia, `Gulf War Syndrome`, etc. `Shin splints` does not fall into that blanket terminology. It is a sloppy and non-descriptive term and does not aid diagnoses.
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Coming back a bit I am happy to commend Shane's course. Done a couple of acupuncture courses over the time and found Shane's course to be pragmatic and applicable clinically very quickly. Very useful adjunct to other things I do.
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I agree that NSAIDs and even cortisone injections can provide some relief of symptoms of PF in some cases, however in my experience the more chronic the condition the less likely they are to have a significant Effect. The mechanism by which they work is to my knowledge not well understood, and could be much more complicated involving pain and neural pathways that are beyond my understanding. It is just widely considered now days that the condition is degenerative not inflammatory. that is all i was commenting on.
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So, if we go back to the subject, are there any training courses in the UK?
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Yep. Shane (see post no 5) has course running October/November this year. They are based in Huddersfield and Galway. Happy to commend them.
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Hi Ahc
This may be a late reply for you. I did Shane`s course last month and found it educational and practical. I have started getting into this therapy with some good results. I am looking forward to doing the advanced course to bed down what I have already learnt. I see Shane has contacted you. I would recommend his course. -
HI,
I was wondering if you know any accupuncture course available in London or generally in Uk for podiatrists as soon as possible?
Lila -
In the London area the courses run by Anthony Campbell are approved by the Society for extended scope of practice for their members. I believe he runs course through out the year. Shane Toohey from Aus also runs approved courses in the UK and Eire but these tend to run at the back end (October time) of the year.
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Thanks Ian,
I expect to come over to UK twice in 2015 and working on dates now.
At presnt there could be workshops in Ireland, Huddersfield and Aberdeen.
I'll advise asap. It's a bit of a process as I need to register each workshop with the SCP at least 3 months before presentation date and it takes a further 3 months advance notification before it is listed in SCP events. That means it is not worth me setting dates less than 6 months before the workshop to have a chance of having sufficient participants. The proces is happening and may have dates before Xmas.
As I have the floor here I'd like to say that my workshops have a podiatric perspective and have 20 years of treating podiatric conditions behind them.
The modality is very accesible for podiatrists and can extend the scope of practice immensely. as it is not just about MSK but also feeds into the medical conditions that podiatrists routinely deal with.
Cheers
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Hi Shane,
Just wondering if you will be doing the course in Melbourne at all? -
Hi Adam (?),
Thanks for your interest.
I'm not sure about a suitable venue in Melbourne and being fairly time poor at the moment I just haven't followed up on a promising lead that I now can't remember.
It can really take a lot of time setting up a venue the first time.
If you have suggestion please let me know.
I'd love to come to Melbourne for a workshop.
Cheers
Shane
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