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Hi,
I am wondering how to get into podiatry. I already have a Bsc in biomedical science and a masters in health research. I contacted Smae but they only do the FHP course now. Can you help? Is there any conversion course out there that I could do to become a podiatrist rather than having to do another Bsc?

I gained a 2.1 in my Bsc. Both degrees were taken at Keele University.

Many thanks
Sarah

 

Hi Sarah,

There are various Pod Schools dotted around the country, but I would try the school at Brighton Uni as your first stop. They seem pretty switched on, and I believe they are quite helpful. I think they run an abbreviated version of the degree course, but you'll have to check with them.
I don't have their contact number but a quick google should find it for you.

You have a slight problem in that a big chunk of the course is practical, which you cannot gain exemptions for with your previous quals.

Someone else will be along in a bit with more info.

Best of luck!

 

Hi
I would advise you to think seriously before joining any course, I graduated last year with a good degree in podiatry, but have since found very little work or opportunities. I have started working for myself but their is so much competition from unqualified practitioners I would have made more money in the last year if I had taken a minimum wage job. not what you expect from spending 3 years hard slog at uni.

 

Not all doom and gloom, I graduated last month and have an NHS job 3 days a week (permenant contract), talking to a couple of people about joining their private practice, and been approached for locum work - in addition I am seeing some of my own private dom patients.
I graduated from Northampton - may be worth speaking to the Head of School there, to discuss what options may be available, but as previously mentioned the practical would still have to be covered, but they may be able to APL some of the theory.

Colin

 

Be very careful with your decision re:podiatry. Go to the university or college offering podiatry near you & ask for the class list of graduates from 2000 & see where they are today.*

Competition is from nail salons, nurses visiting seniors' buildings & providing foot care at £10, one bloke who's Spanish told me in his neighbourhood there are 3 ladies that he has heard of & they do housecall foot care visits for £20. How do you compete with that?

20+ years ago I graduated & I still struggle to pay my bills. A fellow grad who was fairly well off believed that you had to have a surgery at nice & modern medical buildings. She set up at one, was there & lost money every year. She then moved to another building & the same thing happened. She then quit the profession. More than 1/3 rd of my class have quit the profession.

 

not sure why all the negativity about no work, in my business (not podiatry but a sports footwear fitting set up (i am a C.Ped)) we are constantly being asked to recommend podiatrists for various problems outwith the scope of our business..... there is 1 podiatry clinic in the town that i know of, maybe a few foot health practitioners and home vista types but only one "office based" podiatrist

maybe it is time to start thinking outside the box, tie ups with shoe stores or sports therapy type businesses might yield some work for those struggling to pay the bills.....

the other thing i saw about a year ago when i was asked to lecture to a class of chiropractors was that there was a lack of basic business sense..... this group all believed that they do what they do to "help people" maybe this is true but you are in business TO MAKE MONEY end of! they had no idea about how to market their businesses, did not offer anything to their patients in terms of offers or added value... please don't say my business is different , it doesn't work for my type of business...marketing is marketing plain and simple, because unless you do something to get people through the door, they don't just turn up. Built it and they will come! not in this day and age

 

Nice to read about the positive perspective about podiatry. Here's a true insider story that occurred 15 years ago.
I was at a podiatry seminar & a podiatry professor was teaching there. During a break, I told him I was having difficulty with the unbridled competition & asked if he was hearing similar stories from graduates. He said yes. Then he said, "I have 2 children studying in university right now. If either one comes home & announces they want to go into podiatry, I would shoot'em and save them a life of misery." I was shocked. "It's that bad," I said & he concurred.

 

Steve-pod,

Podiatry professor? I didn't know there was such a beast.

In the UK?

Where exactly?

 

I am getting sick and tired of now negative podiatrists can be, there is work out there. I graduated just over 3 years ago and got made redundant from 2 jobs, each time walking into another job, you put the effort in and want it enough it will work.

I spend 70% of my time working with physiotherapists and they are much more willing to learn and the negativity is not there, they always ask questions we help each other and yet I have podiatry colleagues who have done the same things for 20 years, I am not saying that is a bad thing, we live in a world where medicine progresses fast and we have to keep up. For example from my limited experience I see physiotherapist have regular teaching sessions in the NHS, case studies meeting etc I see very little of this in podiatry in the NHS. I asked my self why is this? There is not reason, so I thought lets get it started and I have but still get resistance from colleague to progress and learn and change the way they think.

With the 2012 games in London Podiatry in the UK has a change to get our name out their and the time will soon pass and if we miss the boat when will our next chance be?

This is not a personal attack on anyone.

Back on topic I am any conversion course, my advice would see the Universities speak to the students, look at how much clinical time you have and where and when it is. I have a biased approach as I went their but I could not recommend Northampton enough.

Nick

 

so very true, about 2 years ago i was asked by a couple of C.Peds in the USA who had been involved with the poly clinics at both Athens and Beijing to get the details of the poly clinic for the london games...at both these previous games pedorthists had been welcomed as part of the team giving their time for free and supplying many of the materials for orthotics and bracing for injured athletes, for london they were told that they were not wanted.... basically down to the "UK system" that pedorthics is not recognised as such

what i don't see are podiatrists queuing up to offer their time...or are they...any forum members working at the games????

 

I am working (volunteering) at the Paralympics games, I know of a few other users on here that are involved as well.

 

Providing free podiatry treatments opens the door to more volunteer positions. They make you feel very good when everyone thanks you for your opinion & your treatment. I could do volunteer podiatry work 60 hours/week. But no one is volunteering to pay my rent or bills.
I was asked to provide foot care at a posh retirement residence. I was there for 6 months, when I was told to leave. The director there was friends with a podiatrist & he asked her if he could work there. I guess his private practise wasn't providing him with enough income. I was phoned & asked not to return. There was no severance pay, no thank you or good bye tea.
A few years later, a nursing home director asked me to provide foot care for their residents on a payment per service basis. Unbeknownst to me, the director of resident care quit the position within weeks of my start date. The new director of resident care asked me to meet with her. I was shocked that she asked me not to return because she was going to have the personal care providers trained in basic foot care & they would continue to charge £10/treatment but that money collected would be added to the revenue of the nursing home.
After each time I lost the position I did not get a new one or a better paying one.

 

Hi
This is not about willingness to learn, I have been very dedicated with CPD activities, regularly going on courses when I can afford it. I have also shaddowed private practitioners. I have been on business and marketing courses run by my local council, I have tried every trick I can think of to market my practice. You make me angry, you make it sound like I'm not trying, Where is all this work you keep talking about? I must be on a different planet, I check the NHS job site every day and other sites that advertise associate positions, I have had several associate jobs, only to be used, travelling many miles to see just a few patients which did not even cover my petrol money. I am surrounded by non podiatrists doing the same thing as me but because they are not regulated they are much cheaper, some pass themselves off as chiropodists by advertising in directories under the chiropodist section but not actually calling themselves chiropodists in their advert. I have found that speaking to people they do not know what HPC reg means, I try and educate but most people are just attracted by the cheap prices. I can only see a future for me in the profession as an unregulated practitioner, at least that way I will be able to compete on price.

 

I see where you are going wrong......;).
Blaming the Podiatry profession for your own lack of business acumen is hardly fair.

When I qualified it was perfectly possible to start a Practice and be in profit within three years provided you were good at the job, keen, personable, and had a good head of population to work with. We did no advertising or leaflet drops, and no biomech, just what we were trained to do, which was cut-and-come-again, and some nail surgery. My business partner and I had around 200,000 population within a 20-mile radius, and only three other chiropodists in competition.
Even back then I knew enough not to touch Care Homes. We didn't eat particularly well for the first year, but we survived, mostly on our part-time NHS salaries. Our wives both worked too, which helped.
That was 38 years ago.
Today things are very different, yet some Pods still make a good living, and others can't make a go of it. Why is that I wonder?

UK Podiatry in private practice has changed massively, and the old successful business model is dead. It can't work in today's marketplace.

 

ok here is a little bit of fact ...carefully look at the numbers

the numbers are for averages of people in any given sector, could be builders doctors, designers but it does hold true for the most part

1% or people are rolling in it rich beyond your wildest dreams
4% are pretty much there
15% are on the right road, heading towards their goals of success
60% are struggling by
20% are failing badly


so 80% are either struggling or failing...

80% of people in any business sector are WRONG in what they are doing, harsh, yes, but unfortunately true, the key is to be in that top 20%

please don't give me we have tried every marketing trick in the book, that line is only ever used by people who do not understand marketing

instead go and buy some books on the subject and read them, places to start would be jay levingson, nigel botterill, seth goddin...... then tell me you have tried every trick in the book

until people understand how to market a business they will rarely succeed in business, you need to be a marketer of what you do rather than a doer of what you do :craig::craig:

 

All wonderful stuff, but what the hell do you suggest then? the old model is not working anymore, then what wonderful ideas do you have? I am blaming the podiatry profession or people in it particularly those with an interest in making money from education for misleading people as to the prospects in the profession, yes I am not experienced at business, that is why I have been on courses and sought expert advice from people in and out of the podiatry profession, yes I have read marketing books and tried many things, and although this does not make me an expert I am trying. I do not want others to go into this profession without knowing the state it is in at the moment. And you only have to look at the jobs that come up on this site to see how little prospects there are for employment. When I first qualified last year I went to shaddow an experienced Pod in who has been in private practice for over 30 years, he warned me that many new graduates drop out of the profession within a few years, I was determined that was not going to happen to me, since then though my enthusiasm and confidence has been drained. Many Pods I graduated have dropped straight out of this profession due to lack of opportunities. And by the way my skills have never been an issue I get very good feedback from the patients I have treated, and practitioners I have worked for. And yes there are exceptions, some people are doing very well, if you have been established a long time and are good, your customers are likely to return again and again no matter what you charge, but getting eatablished from scratch is now extreemely difficult.

 

would you just step back and listen to yourself, you sound like a bitter twisted old git who has worked his fingers to the bone for 40 years + and had his world robbed on the last day of work

reading the books is fine, put stuff into action

i guess the biggest problem is competing with FREE (as in the NHS) so diversify, you have done the hard bit, got the degree, now go and do a few courses in footwear fitting and modification (got to the USA and get a C.Ped if you need to) then set up something like the best shoe facility in town if not the region

offer shoe fitting, start with a small stock of different shoes that you can get drop shipped as you need them and don't have to carry too much stock, video gait analysis orthotics and even nail care in the back room, but do something

there was a piece on BBC news this morning about pop up shops a low cost way of getting businesses up and running and trialling the market place, go look into this, why not pop up podiatry... when i started my business 7 years ago i sat and waited for the phone to ring, believe me it was hard, there were days when i didn't see anyone or speak to anyone, i would fit people in whenever they wanted to see me any time of day any day of the week, right now is the quietest part of the year for my business but i know come september it will get busy again and all will be good, you have to be prepared for the hard times and not quit at the first signs of it all going wrong....

i will always remember what the accountants said to me when we were looking for one at the start, i told them all of my experience in the industry and my wife's marketing background (yes ok i had a little help there to start but she now only ever comments when i have set up the campaign) one accountant when asked what the biggest problems we might face would be answered... "that getting a reputation and marketing the business would be the hardest things" despite having been told of my background...the accountant we use told me the hardest thing would be having the balls to carry on when the phone isn't ringing the customers aren't coming through the door and the bills all need paying!


so do you have

1 business cards
2 a web site
3 a facebook page
4 a twitter account
5 CRM software (use mailchimp it is FREE)
6 some ideas of a direction, offers and how to add value to your customer experience
7 some contacts in related industries to get referrals from
8 a deadline...without a deadline you will get nothing done, write it down and stick to it.
9 materials for what you want to do (the only bit that costs so far)
10 BALLS..make em big ones coz if you want to succeed you need to blow the competition out the water with them


if you don't have everything on that list then get it, not a lot that costs anything

there are plenty places you can get help to set up a small business and it doesn't take loads of money

if this is not for you then i hear that it may not be too late to get a security job with G4S at the olympics

good luck

 

jono3511

I did say that was not a personal attack, I did also say I am speaking from my experience and my statement does not apply to everyone, it is the same with any job you have people who learn and progress and people that don't. I do not live in Manchester so can not comment on work there.

However I feel that telling someone looking to come into the profession is not right, who will carry on promoting the profession and developing it's awareness when we have gone?

This very exciting time for podiatry having a podiatry team in the 2012 games, hopefully getting full prescribing rights.

I had a patient who is the committee for a Strategic health authority in England and they were saying 30% of all GP visits are for a MSK problem, that is a huge number.

Nick

 

I think you're going to get competition from any business sector. For example, you've chiropractors competing with eachother aswel as sports massage therapists, osteopaths and physiotherapists. There all crossing over to market themselves to a similar patient group. Look what they have to face and yet they seem to still be business. Dentists squat practises that are set up, aren't always successful either. I think 50% about you're degree and technical ability and 50% about business skills. You have to look at offering something that other practitioners in your field may not, or offering more services so you can attract a wider market.

Look at all the courses we can do on top of our degree. You've got podiatry acupuncture, corticosteroid injection courses, prolotherapy injection, silicone fat pad injections, with the LLLT laser, you've got lots of options. And have you heard of the saying, you've got to spend money to make money, which means you need to invest in yourself (extra courses), equipment and market yourself to make a success. I know of many podiatrists earning well over £100k/year, and at my clinic at university it's always busy and we charge for treatment with students!
I'm a student studying this course and I've done a lot of research so Im not going to be put off with the negative attitudes. If 1 podiatrist can earn over £100k in private practise what's stoping you??? That's the attitude you have to have.

 

Yes my uni clinic was allways full to, thats because its cheaper, hope your still enthusiastic when you have been in the real world for a year.

 

Good luck to the original poster, please do your own research as to what genuine opportunities are out there, look on NHS jobs web sites etc to see how often jobs come up, go to your local NHS clinics and speak to pods about NHS job opportunities and also private practitioners this way you will get a true picture of prospects after graduating.

 

i don't get it, 8 posts in and you are the soul of all negativity,

FYI nobody is entitled to walk out of university and get £50k a year job...maybe that was how it worked 20 years ago, in modern times you actually have to work to get experience, accept the low paid positions and gain the knowledge or experience to get the big bucks...or as suggested above you could go work for yourself...there is nothing stopping you, other than YOU

 

Where in any of my posts have I said I expected to earn £50K??? I would quite happily settle for a low paid job.

 

you don't specifically say it but the way you are talking it is all doom and gloom and there are no jobs or opportunities

if you are that disheartened then maybe it is time for a career change, who knows

 

Correct I have never expected a £50k job, but I did expect to find some work, but the point ive been trying to make all along, is there are few job opportunities, and so most new graduates are forced to go into self employment if we want to stay in the profession and whever or not you are good at business this is tough and people thinking of entering the profession should be made aware of this.

 

Sarah,
You will read many various opinions about podiatry here. As I wrote before, contact the podiatry schools that you may want to attend & obtain the list of podiatrists who graduated back in 2000 & even 1990, look them up & see how they are doing. I can't comment about the reasons for their success or lack of success, but I can write that if 90% of the grads were making £40,000+, then they would be still in the profession. You're smart, do your research & good luck to you & your future career -in whichever direction you decide to go!

 

Wow,

Away for a day and look at this thread now!
:D

Jono3511, - unless you are very unusual your clinical skills are not up to scratch one year out of college. Mine certainly weren't, and we did quite a lot more hands-on work on the old diploma course than the degree students do.

Anyway, were I in your shoes today I'd be looking at honing my skills, perhaps with some voluntary work, and adding to my CV with relevant courses, perhaps a Cert/Dip/MSc in Biomech for example.

The C.Ped idea is something to look at too.

At the end of the day if someone told you that Podiatry was a goldmine they were wrong.
But you can make a good living from it if you apply yourself.

For a goldmine you need to retrain as a Dental Surgeon/GP/Solicitor.

Steve_pod - sensible post.

 

jono3511

I understand where you are coming from.

I have been following this thread from its start and it has made me reflect.

I have been in the private sector for 23 years and commenced self employment in a very different financial climate. Back then the economy had crashed, housing prices were falling at a fast rate of knots but the banks were still lending and people were still spending.

I qualified having made a profit out of the various institutions willing to give me money to study. My fees were paid, I had a discretionary grant, the GLC were willing to pay my living costs and my hometown local authority were willing to pay my travel expenses as I was on a discretionary grant. I could even sign on when I went back home during holidays.

But of most value, I had the choice of half a dozen full time jobs to walk into to get that post graduate confidence up, to gain experience and to be mentored.

So, in comparison, you may have had a bursary but I am certain you are not in profit from your time at university. There are no longer the generous hand outs to support living costs so I am guessing you have racked up several thousands in debt.

There is not a cat in hells chance of getting full time NHS work in the NW region (that's if your location is correct on your profile). With the proximity of Salford and Huddersfield Universities, the area is saturated with experienced graduate Podiatrists. As you have already noticed the lower end of the foot care market is super saturated with cut and come HPC Pods, FHPs, Social Care enterprises and anyone else that can cut and (g)rasp.

To aim for the higher end of the market, you are going to need money to rent premises, to purchase hardware, stock etc. and fulfil all those marketing ambitions you have been supplied with. You are probably going to need to borrow money at a time when banks are not lending...especially not to a graduate with debts and no experience in their chosen field.

I do sympathise. It is not an easy ride out there. It wasn't when I got going but as I have spelt out, there was no student debt, no problems borrowing, no shortage of employment for us Chiropodists (podiatry was not on the horizon then) and a recovering economy.

I don't know what the solution is and as you have been chastised enough for alleged attitude, we don't need to go down that road. What you need is continued peer support and to get to know colleagues close to you. Are you a member of any of the professional bodies? Can we help link you with colleagues that way?

There is private sector work out there. I function in the NW of England and speaking from experience a trusted and known face is easier to associate with in terms of private practice. Get that face known.

PM if you wish.

GB

 

I think that when it comes to jobs there may be different criteria to consider in terms of skill development. Those that enable you to be attractive to and remain within the NHS context and those which enable you to develop and survive in private practice.

I cannot comment on the NHS situation (having not been part of it) beyond suggesting that some of the specialist areas in the NHS will be unlikely to easily transfer in the PP world by virtue of cost to patient and practitioner in providing and sustaining those services, e.g. serious wound care.

When it comes to PP then there is serious competition in the likes of increasing numbers of FHP's who undertake more basic podiatry services (plus pods who are coming from the NHS into PP), which begins to narrow down some of the pod skills that may make you have something of a unique service provider element to your practice. To that extent it is worth considering what set of PP skills you can develop that sets you slightly apart. And this is a somewhat significant part in surviving in the market place.

When it comes to cross over with different disciplines (physic's etc) becoming more interested in the low leg, foot and ankle complex (I recently read a result from a physio pilot study into rehabbing 1st MPJ after surgery where part of the conclusion was that the foot should become a sub speciality of physiotherapy - and i'm sure it will because they will get on with it and do it. Where are the Pods in this?!) then there is only one way ahead. Become as good or better than them at understanding and working with this complex.

Grasping the more modern concepts in biomechanics and how to make a difference via either orthoses, simple wedging, footwear adaptation. Add into this an increasing knowledge of the anatomy, physiology and pathology of that area which is meant to be our speciality. Additionally build into your hands skills that can maybe make a difference in those situations ( I have gone down a particular road). Pulling these things together can make us distinct from others when it comes to low leg, foot and ankle issues in the private market.

In reality, even though people may have trained via the NHS, the job at the end of the tunnel is not an individual "right" as you are still up against others after the same goal and the finite financial resources available in terms of employers. Equally, setting up in PP and investing in equipment etc is not a right to success. There inevitably comes factors such as chance, right placement in the market and geographical placement of your clinic and much more more important stuff.

 

Hi
All this talk about high salaries is a little annoying. As I have already tried to point out I have never been mislead about earning a high salary, or ever expected to earn a high salary, that is not the reason I came into podiatry. Thanks for your comments anyway.

 

Shawadawada,
I'm afraid that there is only one way into podiatry and that is via an approved course

http://www.hpc-uk.org/education/programmes/register/

now would I suggest you do such a course? IMO no.

I will say at this point that I consider it morally reprehensible for Uni's to keep training Podiatrists when there are so few opportunities in the NHS.

A quick look at the NHS jobs website shows only 8 jobs in the whole of UK.

http://www.jobs.nhs.uk/cgi-bin/advsearch

A quick look at the Institute's website shows 8 podiatry practices for sale

http://www.iocp.org.uk/Classified_chiropodist_opportunities.php

as does this website

http://www.thatfootsite.com/classifieds/classifieds.php

are you seeing a pattern emerge?

As I see it, employment prospects are pretty bleak.

You have seen the imput for jono1351 who is actually experiencing what it is like to be trying to carve out a niche in the private sector.

If you have 2 good degrees in other subjects I am confident you would be able to becoming gainfully employed in another discipline.

The only part of the footcare market that seems to be expanding is social nailcutting. However, this area of the market is serviced by a whole plethera of unregulated practitioners who saturate the market place and only suceed in driving prices down.
This includes, in this area, ex AgeUK employees and retired district nurses doing visits at £10.00 for nail cutting .
Most nursing homes will not pay more than £8.00 a patient.
FHPs are charging £20.00 for a home visit and some travel 15 miles from other areas to their patients.
I am sure you do not want to join in this price war in order to cling to the lowest rung of the footcare market.


To jono1351, I can feel your frustration and disillusionment. I won't give you advice because when I went into business 15 years ago the market-place looked very different to what it is now.
If you have a local branch of the SCP I would make yourself known and see what help they can offer.

Good luck

regards

Catfoot

 

as an afterthought, to DH,

you said

so would you be kind enough to enlighten us as to why the "old" model does not work and what model would work in today's marketplace?

I ask this question as I believe you used to run "Practice-Boosting" courses in the past.

I am sure jono1351 would be interested in your input

regards

Catfoot

 

good advice from george and ian and catfoot its much tougher now than back in the day people 30 years ago worked mornings for the nhs as sessional chiropodists they earned more doing sessions than i did working full time we young ones thought they were the old s*** chiropodists how wrong was i . fortunateley i am an old s**** one now. if you work in the midlands north east shropshire etc very few peeps are anywhere near 100 grand you are lucky to earn 36 on the nhs and your career is already over so you have my sympathy you graduate in debt and ther is little work but you have to have faith and vision it can be done i worked for the nhs for 15 years before i got abreak you have to grab opportunity with both hands good luck. ps you can break your balls learning to prescribe about 6 drugs and they

still wont pay you anymore but you will be able to tell your colleagues how clever you are wont that be nice.

the best advice do no training get into no debt buy single use instruments for cash cut oldies nails for 25 quid a go have no records no rules no hpc pay no tax do 4 per morning earn 500 aweek cash nice enjoy the rest of the week keep under the radar bobs yer uncle this is what you are competing with its happening its reality.i khow you are out there but nobody will ever stop you this is britain 3rd world.

 

hey catfoot is that practice boosting like circulation boosting

 

:D
Little snipe there guys?
No matter.
Fishpod, I find your attitude astonishing, and not a little negative.
Do you really believe that having prescribing rights is of no use to the UK profession?

Catfoot.
It is neither my fault nor my responsibility that the podiatry marketplace has changed.

However, I'm always pleased to help:).
The first and only advice I will give about running a successful private practice on an open forum is to make sure you are in an area with at least (and preferably with many more) than 20,000 affluent population within a 10-mile radius.

Obviously one would assume that you know your profession and are good at what you do. This is so fundamental I'd better state it in black and white - you need to be better than your competitors (doh!).
Any Podiatrist who thinks they are good at their job after a year out of college is a misguided fool.

Just so we are clear - the HPC is safeguarding our professional standards, so I presume you are not bringing the profession into disrepute. It has nothing to do with me about how the two of you, or anyone else on this thread for that matter, run your practices, and whether they are successful or not.
I couldn't give a monkey's either way.

 

hey david i did not know it was you who did the courses however people are out there not registered no rules to follow so if i was young and starting out i would do it by the back door thats not bringing the profession into disrepute its just an opinion which i hold and many people are following this course into foothealth my local electrician for the past 20 years wife is now a fhp earning dosh not worrying about the hpc or any of the bull**** hey she will never worry or get disciplined i dont think she is up a nite worrying about clinical governance or data protection . i am allowed not to like the hpc it is not fit for purpose IMHO. yes i believe the prescribing rights are not worth the paper the legislation is written on and only nhs specialists will ever use the rights anyway time will be the judge

 

I think you have a terrible attitude, you have no real answers to the questions and issues raised, so you respond by continually insulting me. ( re misguided fool). Once again where in any of my posts did I say I was good. stop jumping to conclusions, what I did say was that I get good feedback from my patients. I have reached a certain acceptable standard obiously or I would not have been allowed to graduate, and by the way I was allways very dedicated as a student, volunteering in the NHS clinics throughout all of the long holidays to better my skills, even though I am not foolish enough not to realise that someone who has been in the profession 10years or more will have better skills than me. But once again this is not the issue here, we are talking about lack of opportunities, and you have no real answers except to insult me. Let me tell you, You no nothing about me.

 

David H

I don't believe I said that it was either your fault or your responsibility. :confused:

However, if you want to go down that road, you do mentor FHPs so it would be reasonable to believe you have had a small hand in it.

I'm still waiting to hear about the "new" model of private practice, or maybe that's one you save for your unregulated students ?

regards

Catfoot

 

Quote: Your post 16 on this thread - "And by the way my skills have never been an issue".
I no from your posts on this thread that you can't spell, that your attitude is negative, and that you think the profession owes you a living.
Don't agree? re-read your posts.

I suspect you are not going to contribute much to the UK Podiatry profession, but that is pure conjecture on my part.

The thread is not about lack of opportunities, It is about someone with two degrees wanting info about doing a Podiatry degree. The thread was hijacked three posts in by you and morphed into how bad the UK Podiatry scene is and how no-one can make a living any more.

 

davidh,

Threads evolve.

I do not agree with the sentiments of your post #39. I am not going to copy and paste it in my response. If others want to be aware of your condescending attitude they can look and read it for themselves.

I have taken a different approach and contacted Jono3511 by PM. His attitude is anything but negative. The profession may be escalting one way for those in Advanced Practitioner roles but for those trying to get a foot in the door it is damned hard going.

Sometimes a little peer support is called for. I hope the Branches of SCP close to where Jono3511 resides can pull together and offer that much needed support...not just in his case but to all those recent grads from this year and last who are in the exact same situation.

I hope your Professional Body supports your struggling members a little better than you do. Your last post has done you absolutely no favours. It positively stinks.

GB