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Is this foolish or is it genius?

http://www.runningschool.co.uk/index.php/2010/03/online-biomechanical-analysis/

All they ask the punter to do is provide 20 seconds of footage of them running in the frontal and sagittal planes (on CD by post or via free upload to youtube), answer a few questions and within 48 hours they will send them a full report. That'll be £35 please... kerching.

Thoughts?

Ian

 

Maybe they have done Roberts course:
http://www.podiatry-arena.com/podiatry-forum/showthread.php?t=41531

Wish I had thought of it first!

 

Assessments without having to meet the person... true genius!

 

I only had a quick look, but I could not see any indication of the qualifications/ background of the analysts...

 

Running Technique Analysis or Running Gait Analysis - what’s the difference? Fair question, and below is the answer according to this company (Some interesting thoughts on what they feel a Podiatrist does...)

http://www.facebook.com/notes/run-faster/running-technique-analysis-or-running-gait-analysis-whats-the-difference/114722561895553

 

Not the first time it's been done. Alex catto had an online assessment on his website (back2feet.com I think). And of course the father of chronic pain elimination does it over the phone.

Yet again, people do a treatment without bothering with anything as prosaic as a diagnosis.

 

Price update: now the running school wants £50 for an online analysis: http://runningschool.co.uk/online-analysis/

Are people really going for this? Would they not rather spend their hard earned on face to face contact with someone?

Despite its very obvious limitations, has anyone on here considered offering this?

 

Exactly what i thought, Ian I would be embarrased to offer this service. The idea that the service user would be able to set up a camera exactly perpenicular to the floor so angles can be "accuratly" drawn is unlikely. If anyone else has used the iphone angle apps / Valgus angle apps youll know where im coming from.

Like craigs thread on running machines in shoe shops its all smoke and mirrors. I just feel sorry for the public who pays £50, especially with comic relief coming up !

What do you think Ian? Do you think any of your current private patients would use it?


Jon

 

You know what Jon, the scary thing is that I bet they would! People are desperate for a 'quick fix' (despite us knowing that's not what this offers). And more and more runners care about 'technique' now than they ever did in the past.

Why would you be embarrassed to offer this service Jon?

Like I said - forget all the limitations of 2D kinematic analysis for one moment (these limitations affecting those of us performing gait analysis in our clinics as much as it does people filming themselves and sending it in) - what are the potential benefits of this system? I can think of a few.

 

I’m not sure who would use this service over a face to face analysis?

They would need a camera/phone. They would need space and good lighting. They would also need internet access to find out about the service. It just seems very lengthy. In the time it takes to get a decent clip of yourself and uploaded/downloaded to a CD you’re talking at least 25 minutes surely.

The only benefit i can think of is if your in a remote area, even then youd need to fufil the formentioned criteria.

Go on Ian enlighten me on the reasons, I’m intrigued now ?

Regards

Jon

 

Almost everyone has a phone with built in video recording capabilities. And internet access. The lighting and space in most gyms would be more than adequate. Recording yourself and uploading it to an online dropbox would take a few minutes at most.

I see potential in this for asymptomatic athletes who want feeback/information on their running technique. What could we report on? Well to name the two things which immediately spring to mind - 1/. Symmetry (of arm swing/heel lift etc) and 2/. The frontal plane stability of the pelvis (i.e. the recruitment charactersitics of the hip abductors/gluteii). There may be more, but thats all I have at 2am.

Naturally I'm not suggesting this would be a replacement for face to face consultations for injured athletes, more of an adjunct service for uninjured athletes.

Thoughts? Would this add value to a sports injury clinic practice? I think it might.

 

I completely understand where your coming from Ian, its definatly worth trying buddy, at the end of the day it wont cost you anything to set up and may bring in extra service users for your other services like orthotic therapy. You might even extend the service to your current patients when theyre away say on holiday/sports competitions/working away and want some advice. Ontop of this the potential advertising benefits ,niche market and ease of access to service users mean its definatly worth a go.

Im off to bed aswell =S

 

Do you really think that, at the end of the day, the person doing the analysis is really worried about the quality of the video? I may be presumptuous, but I bet there are very few videos returned with 'I am not going to analyse you because the lighting was bad or your camera was not straight'

 

Didn't go to the website. Are there disclaimers that this is not medical treatment? Where's the malpractice line that you might cross?

Eric

 

http://runningschool.co.uk/locations/the-running-school-chiswick/meet-the-team/

No disclaimers Eric, but do they need them? They aren't claiming to offer medical treatment, they are basically teaching everyone pose running.

What would be interesting would be to send in several different videos to them of some runner patients, all with differing running styles, pelvic stability, foot kinematics and injuries. Then see what reports came back and how (if) they differed.