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David Haye

Discussion in 'Biomechanics, Sports and Foot orthoses' started by timharmey, Jul 11, 2011.

  1. timharmey

    timharmey Active Member

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    Did anyone see David Haye the boxers right foot which he thought was part of the reason he didnt win the fight ( He lost a Heavyweight title fight last weeked ), are there any fight fans out there ? Any research on foot pathologies and Boxing that we know of ?
  2. Griff

    Griff Moderator

    Here's his poor little pinky for those who haven't yet seen it: http://yfrog.com/h31v5dcj

    For those who watched the fight, and have now seen his toe (he posted this photo the day after the fight) you can make your own minds up about whether it is what cost him the fight. I have my opinion.
  3. RobinP

    RobinP Well-Known Member

    Could possibly understand it if he was a southport. Don't think he would be generating power from his little toe.

    Christ, these guys fight with broken noses/ribs/fingers don't they?
  4. Griff

    Griff Moderator

    You mean southpaw RP ;) Its a question worth asking though - how important is R5 for a right handed boxer?

    I'm a UFC fan. Prefer it to boxing. Never leaves me feeling frustrated or disappointed the way boxing does. Meet 'Mighty Mouse'. He broke his fibular in round 2 of a fight, told his corner in between rounds his leg was "f***ed" then fought on. He earnt $48k for his trouble. Oh, and he won...

  5. Asks Timmy.... Come on man, you fought plenty. Ever had a bad toe while you were in the ring? BTW, Tim was a boxer. As was Neil Smith- Neil- toe pain? I'm not a promotor or anything, but I reckon you two might be about the same weight....I am the weaver..... I'd pay for a ticket.
  6. RobinP

    RobinP Well-Known Member

    Never knew it was Southpaw, always thought Southport was an unusual name.

    Learn something new every day. The other day, I discovered that the police song is singing about being "So lonely" and not the newsreader Sue Lawley:rolleyes:

  7. markjohconley

    markjohconley Well-Known Member

    He's orthodox stance, watching a video he's all right hand crosses. All movement / power starts from the forefoot of his back foot, which with an orthodox stance is his right foot. Fractured r/5th!
  8. TR38

    TR38 Welcome New Poster

    He fell over a lot during the fight so I reckon that is down to the broken toe. I have followed David Haye for many years and he rarely falls down so it must be due to his poor little pinky! It possibly did cost him the fight as he reckons it happened 3 weeks beforehand so his training would have been compromised
  9. Admin2

    Admin2 Administrator Staff Member

    David Haye

    David Deron Haye (born 13 October 1980) is a British professional boxer who has held world championships in two weight classes. He is the first British boxer to reach the final of the World Amateur Boxing Championships, where he won a silver medal in 2001. As a professional he became the first British boxer to become a unified cruiserweight world champion in 2008, winning three of the four major world titles, as well as the Ring magazine and lineal titles. In the same year he moved up to heavyweight, winning the WBA title in 2009 after defeating Nikolai Valuev, who had a size advantage of 9 inches (23 cm) in height and 99 pounds (45 kg) in weight over Haye.

    Along with Evander Holyfield, Haye is one of only two boxers in history to have unified the cruiserweight world titles and become a world heavyweight champion. Haye is particularly known for his unique boxing style which relies heavily on speed and athleticism. He also possesses exceptional punching power and has an 84% knockout-to-win ratio. In 2008, Haye founded his own boxing promotional firm, Hayemaker Promotions.

    1. ^ David Haye. boxrec.com
  10. Admin2

    Admin2 Administrator Staff Member

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  11. Sicknote

    Sicknote Active Member

    Then he should never have got in the ring.
  12. timharmey

    timharmey Active Member

    Simon ,I am a bit lighter than David Haye , but a lot shorter I am mad enough to make a come back , but thankfully my wife wont let Me.Nadal had some foot problem and he used some L.A according to the BBC guy .Is this common practice in competitive sport?If so any harmful long term results.
  13. Tim I have to ask - I´ve always wanted to know why you would want to box even after you have tried it once. I get the training, balance, body control bit. The bit I don´t get is the punching section both the giving and the taking.

    I´m not stand back type of guy - but every time I see a fight/boxing on TV I wonder why you would do this.
  14. timharmey

    timharmey Active Member

    I always looked at it as a sport ,I mean i play rugby and find my self scared playing that .I look at cricketers and that must take some nerve I suppose if you have some apptitude for a sport you find it easy.Also I did love the Glory ,now I have to settle for making someones foot less painful.
  15. W J Liggins

    W J Liggins Well-Known Member

    I've done some pretty tough sports - karate, rugby, climbing and even jousting. However, I have the utmost respect for boxers. You can rely only on yourself......and there's nowhere to run. I consider it entirely regrettable that the PC brigade stopped boxing in (boys) schools and if I had my time again I'd have a go. Mind you, I used to get smacked about at Karate:empathy:, so it would probably have been worse in boxing.:boxing:

    Any comments Tim?

    All the best

  16. timharmey

    timharmey Active Member

    I think people give boxing to much respect its a sport , i was okay , at it but if I had to say do mountain climbing I wold be a nervous wreck.What do you think about treating sports mens feet with L.A , to allow them to compete
  17. Kursh Mohammed

    Kursh Mohammed Active Member

    Tim read your comment in boxing news this week, nice to hear from a fellow Pod!

    Though David did some serious running around, yes for sure it hindered him but, the second 'phase' as Adam Booth kept referring to never took off, so frustrating, you would expect him to commit and take a calculated risk, easy said than done!
  18. W J Liggins

    W J Liggins Well-Known Member

    Hi Tim

    I'm not sure about respect for boxing but I do have a great deal of respect for boxers.

    I'm not keen on using painkillers of any kind to treat sportsmen(women) just to get them out to do their thing. I have an objection on ethical grounds because more often than not it can increase the damage. Pain is there as a warning and to create loss of function; by interfering with that process we may well encourage later pathology.

    Having said that, I do know that professional sportsmen are often treated in this way; I gather from colleagues in the USA that this is particularly prevalent in grid iron football. It was certainly the case that Wayne Rooney was sent out to play soccer for England only 4 weeks after a # of his 2nd met. Whether he was given LA I don't know, but I bet it bloody hurt if he wasn't!

    All the best

  19. Winston Churchill once said:-

    "There is nothing more exhilarating than to be shot at without result. "

    Having been very neary crippled paintballing the other weekend, I can vouch for this.

    Its a lot like that when someone tries to hit you.

    I used to do Karate. Teach it too. There is joy to be gained from such things.
  20. timharmey

    timharmey Active Member

    Hi kursh
    Yes easier said than done.If David Haye packed it in now he would have a lot of money in the bank and his senses , that is the real sign of success in boxing.Glad you saw the letter, are you watching the bill on Saturday ?
  21. Kursh Mohammed

    Kursh Mohammed Active Member

    Yes should be a good cracking fight Murray-Mitchell, I see Mitchell winning this, sounds like he's had a good solid training camp, I think his boxing skills will be good enough.

    Well David Haye got me convinced he was going to do the job, but it just seemed his timing was out, nevertheless live to fight another day they say!

    I'm trying to get back into myself now, too many hand problems, I need my hands. Just invested into a pair of winning gloves, have to say they protect my hands phenomenally well!

    Looking forward to the Mayweather - Ortiz bout!
  22. Tim Foran

    Tim Foran Active Member

    It is funny what people are fans of the UFC. I have a few UFC mags in the waiting room and it is surprising what 50 year old woman pick it up and say they love the sport.
  23. timharmey

    timharmey Active Member

    Hi Kursh
    Change of plan I have been told I am Going to see a film (probably a rom-com)!.I realise this is not a boxing forum so I will just say Murray has probably lived a better life style for a boxer , but i wouldnt like to call it.We need hands(or so Max Bygraves told us) even if you just train to keep fit , it is a good stress buster.
  24. timharmey

    timharmey Active Member

    Got back from the film (Harry Pottter) saw the highlights of Murray /Mitchell you have got to take your hat off to Mitchell ,thats why people follow boxing .He wins against prescott then loses against Kastidis , goes on the drink for 6 months ,then wins again .More redemition / crufixion analogy , than in the film , and you dont have to wear silly glasses , yes I know this should be in the break bit so I will stop .

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