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l thought this might be of interest to some of you, when you consider the debate it has generated here in the past.

How do you decide whether to vaccinate, or not?

JABBED is a 90-minute documentary that seeks to start a new conversation around vaccination.

Sunday May 26 at 8:30pm on SBS One.

JABBED reveals how vaccination is a key part of public health, yet also acknowledges that there are real and rare risks. Many people, understandably, have questions and concerns. In a world of information overload and conflicting stories, JABBED asks how do you reach a thoughtful, informed decision?

This website provides a place where you can hear stories, exchange ideas and discuss what might be done better. This is an SBS website. It is not supported by funds from any external organisation. For advice concerning your own health situation, you should seek independent medical advice.

http://www.sbs.com.au/shows/jabbed

 

David, the answer is, in essence, simple: one goes where the evidence takes you. With very occasional exceptions, such as a history of certain illnesses, the evidence for vaccination is overwhelming.

The problem with people choosing not to have their kids done, is that herd immunity is dropping as vaccination is not 100% (best example is polio), we are still cool while everyone is done. The minute people choose not to vaccinate, the pathways for infection rise.

If I had my way - which I doubt that I will - I would not allow unvaccinated kids into state (government) schools). After all, my dog is not allowed into kennels without a certificate.

Let us always remember, the evidence for vaccination is overwhelming.

 

My children were all vaccinated, the title of the post is of the TV program slogan, not a question of mine.

You made comment that if you had your way the UN-vaccinated would not be allowed to attend state schools, so does AMA chief Dr Steven Hambleton, see the link for details.

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/no-vaccine-no-school-says-ama-chief-20130411-2hn29.html

 

David, I was replying to this when I pressed the wrong button - please forgive if you get 2 versions.

You mean someone agrees with me?! I take your point totally re: title of the program - I was not suggesting for a second that you wold be so moronic as not to have your kids done. Please, no offence meant!

Both our kids were done against everything, with the exception of the eldest not having the whooping cough vaccine - this was medical advice as a result of her having had meningococcal meningitis as a 10 month old. This was 1978 and was the advice at the time - it may well have changed since. As soon as I had grandies, I had the whooping cough vaccine myself.

A bit like my ever going on battle with the lunatic creationists, there seems to be a similar lunatic fringe in non-vaccination. Oddly, our daughter who had the m.m. is now a microbiologist in South Australia and is at the forefront of the (pro) vaccination lobby. Cheers, Rob

 

I have prepared a flowchart to help anyone unsure to decide.

 

Rob I. Nice one; support you totally - but you knew that already.

 

Simpler than that, we both support common sense. :drinks

Which is tragically uncommon.

 

Robert Isaacs, I like your flow chart very much. If I credit you, can I post this to some morons I know who don't think vaccination is necessary?

 

I dont have children so I am by no means an expert on this.
However, I cant help but think, if there are groups of parents who wish to not vaccinate their children, why dont they form their own schools and play groups specifically for non-vacc?
Just an idea.
:rolleyes:

 

Hahaha Tkemp, they can all infect each other...

 

Don't think just of children; while whooping cough was not the cause of death in my Grandfather, it was the beginning of his morbidity and he died a year later with respiratory complications. By the time you reach my age - 58 - there is not much more new to see, but the utter stupidity of non-vaccination takes the biscuit.

Tell you what? lets put the **** back in water and put public health back to where it was 150 years ago!

 

Course you can.

Won't do any good of course, because they'll tell you the drop off and increase of measles is nothing to do with the increase and then drop off in vaccinations. But feel free anyway ;)

 

Quote of the year nomination right here.

I suspect its ok so long as it is organic, natural ****.

 

This says it all for me: