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Medial Foot Column Disorders (Morton's and Rothbart's)

Discussion in 'General Issues and Discussion Forum' started by NewsBot, Mar 26, 2019.

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    Medial Foot Column Disorders (Morton's and Rothbart's): Endemic, Underdiagnosed, and Undertreated
    The Journal of Pain Volume 20, Issue 4, Supplement, April 2019, Pages S70-S71
  2. Brian A. Rothbart

    Brian A. Rothbart Active Member

    I have had the pleasure of talking with Dr Renee Hartz (a well respected researcher ( https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Renee_Hartz ). In her pain practice, she has found a very high correlation between chronic muscle and joint pain and Rothbarts Foot.
  3. scotfoot

    scotfoot Well-Known Member

    So even though there may currently be no such thing as a "professor Rothbart " some do recognize the term "Rothbart's foot " . Interesting !
  4. Brian A. Rothbart

    Brian A. Rothbart Active Member

    What is interesting is that people, like yourself, only attack me personally. Yet, with all the papers I have published on my research, no other published research has invalidated my research.

    In fact, just to the contrary, my papers have been cited many times over. That is why Rothbarts Foot is gaining recognition and interest.
  5. scotfoot

    scotfoot Well-Known Member

    "What is interesting is that people, like yourself, only attack me personally"

    As you are well aware my name is not Gerald . Nothing wrong with the name ,it's just that it's not mine .
  6. Brian A. Rothbart

    Brian A. Rothbart Active Member

    Interesting, Gerrard, Gerald. In my experience, The later was more common then the former.

    So Gerrard, I would be very interested in discussing any research you have published that disagrees with my published research. You will find a list of my publications here. Let's start a dialogue.
    Last edited: Nov 8, 2019
  7. scotfoot

    scotfoot Well-Known Member

    "Let's start a dialogue."
    Sure . Let's start with a simple definition ? Are you presently justified in calling yourself a professor . Yes or no please .
  8. Brian A. Rothbart

    Brian A. Rothbart Active Member


    Where were you trained?

    This discussion is about Medial Column Disorders. Possibly this is a subject you know nothing about.
  9. scotfoot

    scotfoot Well-Known Member

    Yes or no . If you cannot be relied upon to accurately define yourself ,why read further ?
  10. Brian A. Rothbart

    Brian A. Rothbart Active Member

  11. scotfoot

    scotfoot Well-Known Member

    I am a dentist , Brian and make no pretense of being anything else .

    Can I ask which University you are currently engaged by ? A simple question to which I can find no answer in your CV . As far as I am aware , professor is not a title bestowed for life .

    Which University ?
  12. I can honestly say, you cannot rely upon this man to be anything other than a charlatan, he cannot perform basic calculations when it comes to biomechanics; he’s a professor of nowhere, nothing and none-science.
  13. Dieter Fellner

    Dieter Fellner Well-Known Member

    Dear Dr. Rothbart:

    Like Halley's comet Dr. Rothbart appears on the Arena periodically, with the same commentary and self inflationary ideologies. o_O Always entertaining, BUT!

    It is not true to say that people are only making ad hominem attacks. The soil is much more fertile!

    They are also attacking your scientific claims! :p Or absence thereof. :)

    Can you please provide a single, peer reviewed & scientific paper that can help substantiate your claims? What research can you provide that can follow the scientific method i.e. null hypothesis, dependent and independent variables, with outcome measures and statistical analysis? :rolleyes:

    In the absence of such work, your claims, like so many others, are safely discarded in the mental trash bin of pseudoscience. :confused:

    I look forward to you reply, and please do share the paper for others to critique also.

    Best wishes!:cool:
  14. Brian A. Rothbart

    Brian A. Rothbart Active Member

    Rothbart BA, Esterbrook L, 1988. Excessive Pronation: A Major Biomechanical Determinant in the Development of Chondromalacia and Pelvic Lists. Journal Manipulative Physiologic Therapeutics 11(5): 373-379.

    Rothbart BA, Yerratt M. 1994. An Innovative Mechanical Approach to Treating Chronic Knee Pain: A BioImplosition Model. The Pain Practitioner (formerly American Journal of Pain Management) 4(3): 13-18.

    Rothbart BA, Liley P, Hansen, el al 1995. Resolving Chronic Low Back Pain. The Foot Connection. The Pain Practitioner(formerly American Journal of Pain Management) 5(3): 84-89

    Rothbart BA, 2002. Medial Column Foot Systems: An Innovative Tool for Improving Posture. Journal of Bodywork and Movement Therapies (6)1:37-46

    Rothbart BA 2006. Relationship of Functional Leg-Length Discrepancy to Abnormal Pronation. Journal American Podiatric Medical Association;96(6):499-507

    Rothbart BA 2008. Vertical Facial Dimensions Linked to Abnormal Foot Motion. Journal American Podiatric Medical Association, 98(3):01-08, May.

    Rothbart BA 2013. Prescriptive Insoles and Dental Orthotics Change the Frontal Plane Position of the Atlas (C1), Mastoid, Malar, Temporal and Sphenoid Bones: A Preliminary Study. Journal of Cranio Manidibular and Sleep Practice, Vol 31(4):300-308.

    Start with those. If you need more, let me know.

  15. scotfoot

    scotfoot Well-Known Member

    Brian ,
    You said "Start with those. If you need more, let me know."

    Yes please . If it is at all possible I would like to read your PhD thesis . Could you provide a link/copy ?

    Thanks in advance .
  16. Brian A. Rothbart

    Brian A. Rothbart Active Member

    Just a footnote to this discussion.

    It has been stated, by one of the contributors on this discussion, that there is absolutely no correlation/link between the shank rotation (which occurs with transverse plane rotation of the pelvis) and the resulting position of the foot in a closed kinetic state (e.g., during stance phase of gait). In fact, when I suggested this individual to perform the following test:

    • Standing, rotate your pelvis clockwise (which rotates the left shank internally) and observe the pronation occurring in your left foot, he stated performing this test no such link occurred. I found his statement astounding!!!

    To those of you that would be comfortable with a statistical study demonstrating this link, I refer you the published study by Souza, TR, Pinto RZ et al 2010. Temporal couplings between the rearfoot, shank complex and hip joint during walking. Clinical Biomechanics, August.

    Their findings were as follows:

    Cross-correlations revealed a strong mean temporal coupling (mean r=0.77, range 0.56 to 0.92) between shank internal–external rotation and hip internal–external rotation and a moderate mean temporal coupling (mean r=0.56, range 0.37 to 0.78) between rearfoot eversion–inversion and hip internal–external rotation. Pearson correlations revealed significant (P≤0.031) moderate relationships of timing of peak shank internal rotation (r=0.45) and timing of peak rearfoot eversion (r=0.62) with timing of peak hip internal rotation.

    In non pathological gait, shank rotation is the result of pelvic rotation (Elftman H 1960. The transverse tarsal joint and its control. Clinical Orthopedics, 16:41, Inman Verne. The joints of the Ankle II. Biomechanics of the subtalar joint. Baltimore: Williams and Williams, 1976, Levene AS, Inman VT, Blosser JA. Transverse rotation of the segments of the lower extremity in locomotion. J.Bone Joint Surgery, 19488: 30A:859 and Inman VT, Mann RA. Biomechanics of the Foot and Ankle. In:Inman VT ed.DuVries surgery of the foot. Ed 3, St Louis: CV Mosby 1973)

    There are other published statistical papers and conferences that demonstrate this same link:

    Sam Khamis, Gali Dar Et al. 2015. The Relationship Between Foot and Pelvic Alignment While Standing. Journal of Human Kinetics 46(1):85-91.
    Byrne, S, Weir G, Alderson J et al. 2017. Pelvic Obliquity and Rotation Influences Foot Position Estimates During Running and Sidestepping: All in the Hips. 35th Conference of International Society of Biomechanics in Sports, Cologne, Germany.

    and more, if one wishes to spend their time referencing all the publications.

    However, the pelvis to foot link is a one way link. That is foot pronation is not linked to transverse plane pelvic rotation. This was demonstrated in a statistical study by:

    Farzaneh Yazdani, Mohsen Razeghi, et al 2018. The influence of foot hypepronation on pelvic biomechanics during stance phase of gait: A biomechanical simulation study. Proceedings of the Institution of Mechanical Engineers, Part H. Journal of Engineering in Medicine.

    Cheers to our esteemed member.
    Last edited: Nov 13, 2019
  17. Brian A. Rothbart

    Brian A. Rothbart Active Member

    I would be happy to discuss my published research. In fact, on many occasions during the past 14 years that I have been on this forum, I have invited members to do so. The only one recently that has acted on my invitation, has been Howard.

    So Dieter, this is your opportunity to enter into that discussion. Pick anyone of my publications as a topic.

    I have only two stipulations that I must insist upon:
    • Keep the discussion on a professional level
    • No sarcastic diatribes or childish remarks

    P.S., I have listed some of my peer reviewed papers above (as you requested), two were statistical studies, two were one year subjective outcomes, one was a radiological study linking foot motion to frontal plane changes in the cranial bones and 1st cervical and one was on the ontogenetic dysfunctions during foot embryogenesis that resulted in either the PreClinical Clubfoot Deformity or the PMS foot structure.

    Foot Embryogenesis would make an excellent discussion.
    Last edited: Nov 13, 2019
  18. Brian A. Rothbart

    Brian A. Rothbart Active Member

    I believe Gerrard asked to read my PhD disseration on the oncogenetic trigger that I proposed was common to most cancers: The Free Radical Shunt.

    Here is the link to download that paper. Onco-Imprint Theory: Mutated Hydrogen-Bonding Patterns Induced by Free Radical Pathology: The Key Mechanism in Carcinogenesis
  19. scotfoot

    scotfoot Well-Known Member

    I did indeed ask that you provide access to your PhD work and many thanks for making it available . I have not had a chance to read through the text yet , but hope to do so soon . In the mean time I note that you were awarded your PhD from the Columbia Pacific University . I have read a little about this institution and it was a very interesting read .
  20. "Columbia Pacific University (CPU) was a totally unaccredited diploma mill which happily allowed creationist teachings, until California shut it down in 1997."


    Would you expect anything else from Rothbart? Getting his "PhD" degree from a "University" that was shut down due to numerous violations that allowed people to get their advanced degrees with a minimum of actual work?

    As follows are a few of the 88 points which caused Columbia Pacific University to lose its accreditation.
    • One master's-degree student was given credit for "a learning contract describing how he would continue taking dance lessons and watch dance demonstrations in order to improve his skills as a Country Western dancer."
    • A Ph.D. dissertation written in Spanish was approved by four faculty who cannot speak the language.
    • One dissertation "had no hypothesis, no data collection, and no statistical analysis. A member of the visiting committee characterized the work as more like a project paper at the college freshman level. The dissertation, The Complete Guide to Glass Collecting, was 61 pages long."
    • At least nine students who received the Ph.D. degree in 1994 had been enrolled less than 20 months, four of them less than 12.
    The state's case summarizes the university's alleged violations of the Education Code by noting there is "not even a semblance of compliance with the statutes which govern such institutions. The curriculum had no substance behind its lofty description; faculty was virtually non-existent; course work was laughable […] degree requirements were routinely ignored[.]"

  21. A PhD in a highly technical subject with apparently no prior background in the subject, nor any post doctoral work in the field, awarded from a “University” that was subsequently shut down for basically selling awards... go figure? There’s nothing to see here, move along, move along...

    I just googled the so called PhD thesis which is a total of 22 pages of text, 15 pages of figures and three pages of bibliography- no reference section, so despite the fact that Rothbart cites a 1984 reference that he supposedly wrote as his first reference, the reader has no way of checking this. If this piece of “work” constitutes a PhD, even in the USA, I’d be most surprised.
    Last edited: Nov 14, 2019
  22. efuller

    efuller MVP

    Brian, you should quote what was said when you are being critical. I don't recall anyone saying there was no correlation. You do understand the difference between correlation and causation?

    You should also look at the tendons of the lower leg when you have people do that pelvis twist maneuver.

    Yes there are some astounding things going on here, "professor".
  23. Brian A. Rothbart

    Brian A. Rothbart Active Member

    My PhD dissertation was on the link between Free Radical Pathology and carcinogenesis. In 1984 this concept was basically ignored. I demonstrated how FRP altered the stereochemistry of the heterocyclic amines which could incholate oncogenesis. This was a novel insight and approach at the time.

    But what led to my dissertation being accepted and my PhD granted was that I predicted the exact loci on the genome where this genetic deformation occurs. The chances of doing so randomly is mathematically impossible, since one is dealing with over 50 million based pairs of nucleotides in the genome.

    One of the readers criticized the length of my dissertation (22 pages plus diagrams). I found his statement astounding!!!

    As the committee told me, it is not the length of the dissertation that determines acceptance. It is the content that they judge.

    Brian A Rothbart DPM, PhD
  24. Brian A. Rothbart

    Brian A. Rothbart Active Member

    CPU had very similar problems as did our Colleges of Podiatric Colleges had during the 1950s and 1960s. Our DPM degree was not recognized outside of Podiatry, we could not secure residency training at the teaching hospitals etc etc.

    CPU was a fully accredited university when I attended it and received my PhD in 1984. It ran into problems approximately 10 years after I graduated and lost their accreditation. However, all degrees conferred by CPU prior to 1994 are still fully recognized and accredited by California.
  25. efuller

    efuller MVP

    Free radicals causing cancer was mentioned in my undergrad organic chemistry class around 1980. What is incholate? The heterocyclic amines are the free radicals. Your sentence describing your thesis doesn't make sense.
  26. Brian A. Rothbart

    Brian A. Rothbart Active Member

    FyI - pyrimidines and purines are examples of heterocyclic amines. There are many other examples of heterocyclic amines, e.g., niacin and nicotine.

    When some heterocyclic amines are exposed to high cooking temperatures, they can become carcinogenic (e.g., free radicals).
  27. efuller

    efuller MVP

    Actually, it is cooking meat at high temperatures that produces the heterocylcic amines that are carcinogenic.
  28. Brian A. Rothbart

    Brian A. Rothbart Active Member

    Disagree. I stand by what I have written above.
  29. Brian A. Rothbart

    Brian A. Rothbart Active Member

    Due to the phenomenal interest in my PhD dissertation (52 hits in the past week), I have decided to provide an abstract of my Onco-Imprint Theory, below:

    The Onco-Imprint Theory describes the proposed pathomolecular mechanism that changes a normal cell into a cancer cell: peroxidation of specific key genes by reactive free radicals. These deadly chemical molecules are formed in the body as by products of the free radical shunt, an aberrant oxidative pathway. The common denominator of seemingly divergent carcinogenic agents is their ability to fuel the free radical shunt.

    The Operon Theory provides the framework in which the Onco-Imprint Theory is applied. Rothbart suggests:
    • Proto-nucleic bases are located withing the operator site of the cistron and
    • Peroxidation of the proto-nucleotide prevents the repressor protein from binding to the operator site
    • This failure to form the repressor-operator complex releases the proto-oncogene from genetic repression.
    • If that particular cistron controls the mitotic activity within the cell (as with Weinberg's oncogene) cancer results.
    From the viewpoint of Rothbart's proposed Onco-Imprint Theory, cancer is no longer defined as a cluster of diseases, each producing an unique tumor type. Instead, a type of genetic mutation is identified which transforms a normal cell into a cancer cell.

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