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Condys Crystals

Discussion in 'General Issues and Discussion Forum' started by maryanne, Apr 18, 2005.

  1. maryanne

    maryanne Welcome New Poster

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    After recommending Condys crystals to a patient presenting with pitted keratolysis, I was surprised when he rang me up and let me know that it is now discontinued. I was just wondering if someone could shed some light on why this has happened... I have had quite a high success rate with this method. Are there any other commercial preps I can recommend?
  2. pgcarter

    pgcarter Well-Known Member

    I would think you could still buy Potassium Permanganate (Condy's I think) from a chemical supplier. I also had a Pt tell me pharmacies say they can no longer provide it, in Aus anyway.
    Regards Phill
  3. dawesy

    dawesy Member

    No Condys

    Have found this also, no problem with the product, simply a problem with the suppliers to Aus.

    Curious as to what others use instead, without PP I have used...

    General hygiene (including regular footbaths, changing socks etc etc)

    3% Formalin swabbed a few times daily depending on extent of hyperhidrosis.
  4. Erin A

    Erin A Welcome New Poster

    re KMnO4

    My patients can`t buy KMnO4 from the pharmacy but the pharmacist willingly sold me some in a bulk container as it`s not packaged for general sale to the public. KMno4 is an oxidising agent and must be used very dilute, something patients can`t always be trusted with.
  5. joanne eardley

    joanne eardley Welcome New Poster

    KMNO4 crystals

    I recommended these to one of my patients(as I often do), who happened to breed/race pidgeons. I advised him to go to the chemist and buy some, but he said he had a container full of it already. Apparently they put it in to the pidgeons water, to keep them healthy and bug free! So you could try a pet shop?? Also another patient said he already had some, as he worked in a garden centre. They use it for cleaning out their pots. Just a thought, which might help........ :)

  6. trevor

    trevor Active Member

    Potassium Permanganate

    I think that I read that Potassium Permanganate is used as a reprocessing agent for illegal drugs. Perhaps this is why it is no longer on pharmacy shelves.
    However it is available to podiatrists from the Compounding Dept at Belvedere Park Pharmacy in Seaford Victoria Tel: 03 97862703
  7. footman1972

    footman1972 Active Member

    Potassium Permanganate Footbaths

    Hi all,

    As you say, it's important to give as much information as you can on how the patient should use these. They should only use 2 or 3 crystals in a bowl of warm water - any more and they get a great fake tan :D

    Martin Nunn
    Podiatry Service Manager
    Hotter Comfort Concept
  8. hojusaram

    hojusaram Welcome New Poster

    There are many australian chemists who stock Potassium Permanganate or Condys Crystals make sure you ask a chemist, they will probably defer you to some other product but as someone who has used it for many years, it is still readily available in a small tablet bottle size for about 6 dollars australian. Regards, Lance.
  9. Heather J Bassett

    Heather J Bassett Well-Known Member

    :welcome:Hojusaram, good to see you get straight into Pod Arena.:good:
    Please also feel free to go to introduction forum and say hi.
    We look forward tp further input. Well done.

  10. Elizabeth Walsh

    Elizabeth Walsh Active Member

    A few years back, I was once questioned by a guy about our use of Condys crystals.
    He worked for Pfizer pharmaceuticals, and he was astonished that we advised its use to our patients.
    He believed that it was carcinogenic.
    I just stopped advising its use then, did not look any further into it though.:confused:
    Last edited: Aug 16, 2008
  11. Adrian Misseri

    Adrian Misseri Active Member

    G'day all,

    I had a similar problem, and when quizzing a local pharmacist, was told that the company David Craig, who imported it, was changing hands and was not bringing it in whilst the compant was handing over. They are also responsible for Formalin Solution, something else that I've used for pitted keratolysis with good success. As far as I know, David Craig has recommenced importing the Condy's Crystals and they are avaiable in the pharmacy (well, the pharmacies up here in Bendigo anyway?). Formalin is still not available here commertially though.
  12. Elizabeth Walsh

    Elizabeth Walsh Active Member

    Hello again,

    To satisfy my curiosity about the safety of using KMnO4,
    I contacted Bill Statham author of 'The Chemical Maze' ,`What's Really in Your Basket'.

    Have not looked at the data sheets thoroughly yet, but I think that I would still be hesitant to recommend the use of Condys crystals.
    Last edited: Aug 19, 2008
  13. London Pod

    London Pod Member

    try permitabs its a proprietary product from pharmacy its a P medicine, it has advantage of coming in soluble tablet format and allows for more accurate dilution, has instructions for use and is a licensed medical product , only downside is it is rather expensive compared to the old version.

    Alternatively try using aluminum chloride e.g. driclor
  14. Graham

    Graham RIP

  15. donny-777

    donny-777 New Member

    Condies Crystals are available from Whelping Supplies
    PO Box 5403
    VIC 3977
    I have just received my small amount and and testing it on my Legs that have an infection from Chromium used in Dying Leather in my Leg Protectors.
    I sure hopr it works as I have had the rash and itch now for 4 months.

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