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HPC Disciplinary Hearings

Discussion in 'United Kingdom' started by admin, Oct 17, 2006.

  1. George Brandy

    George Brandy Active Member

    Sorry to confuse you Derek, I meant if a patient had developed an overnight grudge and discovered the HPC system of complaints. It would also help if I got my punctuation in the right place. Shift the comma to after I wonder. Then it may make better sense.

    I think I need to join Craig and friends at Felicity's class on better spelling, grammar and punctuation!

    GB
     
  2. DTT

    DTT Well-Known Member

    Hi George

    Ahh that's better all becomes clear again :D

    I heard she is doing it as a sideline for CPD at a very reasonable charge !!

    How to be pedantic is extra :rolleyes: :D

    Cheers
    Derek ;)
     
  3. DTT

    DTT Well-Known Member

    Hi Johnpod

    Nice to see someone is taking the problem on board :)

    Cheers
    Derek ;)
     
  4. Anne McLean

    Anne McLean Active Member

    Hi Derek,

    If we are not getting the service we should, from our professional bodies, then we should inform them of this.

    Regards

    Anne
     
  5. Johnpod

    Johnpod Active Member

    If we are not getting the service we should, from our professional bodies, then we should inform them of this.

    Or consider a professional body that does represent it members?
     
  6. DTT

    DTT Well-Known Member

    Hi Anne

    Yes of course , but being the insular people we are with a profession to match,

    What about the other 12 professions that are governed by this quango ??

    Isn't it the duty of our bodies to liaise with them for opinion and ultimate direction ?

    We have already been branded as "moaners" by some members of the HPC and as we all know in our daily lives it becomes very easy to " cock a deaf un" as required with this Pt type / group.

    If as Craig said this is a "Policy decision" we will need the support of everyone to change it.

    Cheers
    Derek ;)
     
  7. DTT

    DTT Well-Known Member

    Ho johnpod


    Steady :D :D

    Cheers
    Derek ;)
     
  8. Craig Payne

    Craig Payne Moderator

    Articles:
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    By everyone we need every stakeholder, not just each podiatry stakeholder --- there is probably no doubt that all the professional bodies (ie Society, Alliance, etc) support this potential change --- but they are just one 'stakeholder' and do not count for much (ie the self interest argument) - it does not matter if its a unified front or not.

    In order to elicit policy changes, then all stakeholders outside of the professional self interest groups (ie Society, Alliance, etc) need to be on board and support the change. Probably the most important of these are the patient advocacy groups --- personally I do not see them supporting a change away from this 'name and shame before a fair hearing' policy.

    So the HPC have to weigh the competing forces - ie the professional self interest groups vs the patient advocacy groups. Do you really see this policy changing no matter how much nosie the podiatry groups make, nor how unified they are? (no matter how bad you and I think the policy is).

    So the strategy then has to be to get these groups on board rather than rile at the professional bodies leadership. There are ways to influence policy .... bitching about the current policy is not a good way. .... using the players behind the scenes is the way ....
     
  9. Anne McLean

    Anne McLean Active Member

    "So the strategy then has to be to get these groups on board rather than rile at the professional bodies leadership. There are ways to influence policy .... bitching about the current policy is not a good way. .... using the players behind the scenes is the way ...."

    Craig,

    Sorry, I can't find how to insert a quote. It seems to be all of your post or nothing at all!

    I totally agree. This is what I was trying to intimate when I said:
    "Now that it has, perhaps we should all be working together in a concerted effort to attain proper and fair regulation as soon as possible."

    I didn't state it as eloquently as you, but 'bitching' in this way is counter-productive.

    We need to channel all of this energy into getting something positive done about the situation. If we are not happy with how our respective professional bodies are handling the situation, then we must make that known to them.

    Regards

    Anne
     
  10. admin

    admin Administrator Staff Member

    Anne - the codes for quotes (and a whole lot of other things) are here:
    http://www.podiatry-arena.com/podiatry-forum/misc.php?do=bbcode

    Essentaily for a quote, you just type:
    {quote}text goes here {/quote} (replace the "{" and "}" with "[" and "]"
    or {quote=user name}text goes here {/quote}
     
  11. George Brandy

    George Brandy Active Member

    Anne I worked it out after 12 months!

    I wondered also how to do a quote and there is a little speech bubble on the tool bar? (have I got the right terminology)

    Highlight the bit you want to quote.. cut and paste it as per normal into your posting. Once it is there highlight and click the speech bubble. It auto wraps the quotes.

    GB
     
  12. Anne McLean

    Anne McLean Active Member

    Craig and George,

    Many thanks for your help. I have this 'female thing' with anything electronic! I found the quote button at the bottom of the post, but whatever I was doing wrong, I either got the full text of the previous quote or nothing at all. Will try again.

    Regards,

    Anne
     
  13. admin

    admin Administrator Staff Member

    You can use the 'speech' button on the tool bar as George said, but it is limted in how much text it will acept (a couple of sentences at most).

    You can also use the quote button at the bottom right of a message, but that quotes the whole message which does get tedious when too many people start doing it in a thread. If you use that button, you can delete the bits not wanted --- just do not delete the [ or the ] (ie the vB code) as that will prevent the quote displaying (I often go into messages to edit them to fix this.
     
  14. Anne McLean

    Anne McLean Active Member

    Thanks for getting one technophobe out of yet another fix!

    Regards

    Anne
     
  15. DTT

    DTT Well-Known Member

    Hi Craig
    Sorry for the delay in the reply ...

    I don't think "bitching " is the right terminology the facts of this policy are being highlighted that is all.

    My point is the HPC rules 12 other professions besides podiatry.

    All have ( as far as I am aware) the same name and shame policy applied to its members by the HPC.

    Surly it is not beyond the realms of reason and possibility for ALL of the PROFESSIONS to make a joint approach to the HPC for change.

    The only way that could be done effectively would be via the professional bodies.

    I do take on board your point on the "behind the scenes" comments and I agree .

    Cheers
    Derek ;)
     
  16. Perhaps this may reverberate a little more in comparison to the cases cited by Craig previously.

    Given that the FTP hearing will be presided over by a panel which may include a professional representative who might or might not be familiar with current orthotic Rx and will predominately rely on subjective evidence from the complainant, this should send a shiver down many practitioners' spine.

    (Do I recall a quote recently from Ed Glaser that said something about no pain = no gain?)
     
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