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Human foot not as unique as originally thought

Discussion in 'General Issues and Discussion Forum' started by NewsBot, Aug 21, 2013.

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  1. “I have always tried to live in an ivory tower, but a tide of sh!t is beating at its walls, threatening to undermine it.”


    ― Gustave Flaubert

    I'm afraid that you and I, and our criticism's of this work are seen merely as the tidal effluent by some;). Perhaps Flaubert was dazzled by his ivory tower too and mistaken in where the tide was coming from, assuming it was from outside of the ivory tower rather than recognising that it was coming from within? Regardless, I'm quite happy to be "the tide of sh!t" to such people.
     
  2. wdd

    wdd Well-Known Member

    Best wishes,

    Bill
     
  3. wdd

    wdd Well-Known Member

    I would imagine that the main reason Flaubert took to his ivory tower was to escape the egesta outside but of course if he walked in he brought it with him on or at least in his shoes.

    Best wishes,

    Bill

    PS I used Alan's name in a vain attempt to protect myself from the ton of 'feet' that was likely to come down on my head.
     
  4. I don't think this debate has descended into a morass, rather I am heartened at the diversity of the podiatric community in its various specialisms portrayed by many of the contributors and their expertise they bring to the debating forum. Despite the differences of opinion, there is a positive contribution to the body of knowledge within and out with the professional boundaries. We would do well to remember this when we sit at the end of the day as it defines the broader concept of fraternity between us.

    All the best
     
  5. wdd

    wdd Well-Known Member

    How about critiquing their research officially by writing to the journal, if you haven't already done so?

    It would probably take a lot less time and effort and possibly be of more value than responding to this thread. I would imagine that Simon would be chomping at the bit to join you?

    Best wishes,

    Bill
     
  6. "Meanwhile, take care of your gout, my poor friend, and know full well that I love you."

    -Gustave Flaubert
     
  7. wdd

    wdd Well-Known Member

    I like to see it as a free for all in the school playground. A few ripped shirts and blooded noses, a lot of shouting and maybe even a few tears but afterwards everyone feels strangely better, calm and amazingly close to one another. Online it represents a kind of 21st century male bonding.

    Best wishes,

    Bill

    PS 'Amazingly close' but possibly not quite as close as Simon seems to be insinuating with the gout an'at.
     
  8. blinda

    blinda MVP

    I`ve been pondering similar thoughts but you pipped me, and far more eloquently, than I could have surmised.

    I can appreciate the defensive nature of posters who take exception to the critiquing of experts in a field in which they have a higher qualification and/or have a particular leaning towards an associated interest.

    Whilst I by no means claim to be an academic nor an expert, I have felt affronted when the work of dermatologists, whom I hold in high regard, is criticised by podiatrists who, on the surface, show little or no knowledge of the discipline. However, by way of an example of how an overlap benefits both interests is that podiatrists have the advantage of perceiving the lower limb and any associated dermatological pathology as dynamic. Thus, will consider alleviating the effects of friction, pressure, forces, etc . Conversley, the dermatologost will view the foot at a static structure and attempt to alleviate symptoms purely by pharmacological agents. In reality, both should be able to work/research together...but are sadly often still poles apart.

    It is the diversity of interests within podiatry is what makes this place `brilliant`IMO.... and yes, I HAVE been drinking :drinks:drinks

    Bel

    PS. Room for a female point of view, Bill? ;)
    PPS. Agreed on Alan`s thesis, good reading material on the subject of the perception of corncutters and a great personal tutor whilst I was a student.
     
    Last edited: Aug 29, 2013
  9. wdd

    wdd Well-Known Member

    Had you been drinking when you wrote this? It reads like you had............ (Rob Kidd).

    All the best,

    Bill
     
  10. wdd

    wdd Well-Known Member

    Every time.
     
  11. wdd

    wdd Well-Known Member

    For God's sake what's going on here, we're all becoming maudlin.

    How about a little sing song, "Should auld acquaintance be forgot and never brought tae mind, ................."

    Quick, someone, save us from ourselves, say something unpleasant and personal!

    Wow, that's enough for one day. I'm off to bed.

    Bill
     
  12. I'm looking forward to seeing Rob when he's next over in the UK - haven't met him before but I know he's a big ugly bastard like myself and matters anthropological aside, we have a lot in common. And we'll probably be drinking too and arguing and sorting out the world's problems - much like everyone else does when they get together. Sound familiar?

    I'm recoiling a little tonight after being propositioned tonight by an old friend who runs a media company - he did the Ewan McGregor round-the-world bike trip series. He wants me to bugger off for a year in a camper van with guitar and travel around Europe drinking, having sex, getting stoned and playing gigs and generally having a 24 carat antidote to the umpteenth mid-life crisis - and I'm wondering how on earth I would survive without podiatry and these wonderful intercourses. Maybe we could tow one of these old chiropody caravans....
     
  13. Bill:

    I think I would rather do this for awhile :bang:.....it would be much more productive.:cool:
     
  14. Mark and Colleagues:

    Bart VanGheluwe, PhD, a real biomechanics PhD, and I wrote an article about cooperation between scientists and clinicians to gain a greater understanding of foot and lower extremity biomechanics. Certainly, other scientists who study foot function could certainly use some help from podiatrists from time to time.

    Here is the article.

     
  15. wdd

    wdd Well-Known Member

    Go boy, go. 'though it looks as if you might be on your own!

    Hopefully we'll get a preview?

    Bill
     

  16. Hope the show makes it to the lands of Norse I would watch.

    Notice how I decided that you went and the show got made :D
     
  17. blinda

    blinda MVP


    Need a groupie? My usual band have gone awfully quiet and I could do with a year out.
     

  18. Midsommer in Sweden got just the place :drinks
     
  19. blinda

    blinda MVP

    Much as I love the land of Pillagers and open sandwiches, I`d have to re-mortgage the house to afford it.
     
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  21. scotfoot

    scotfoot Well-Known Member

    One of the major problems in moving from quadrupedalism to bipedalism is a greatly reduced ability to fight rival males unless weapons are used .

    If you are a biped , it's a lot harder to get upright after a fall . Also ,if you are a naked bipedal male and an a quadruped with long fangs approaches , you have every right to feel very vulnerable .
    Imagine standing in your birthday suit as an angry ,very large ( same weight as you ), pit bull ,runs at you looking for something to bite through !
    Worse , imagine a pit bull with fangs and 2 pairs of grasping feet rather than paws .

    Moving from quadruped to biped could not happen anywhere other than the tree tops .
     
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