Would those who know more about orthoses than I do care to comment on the uesfulness of these gadgets?
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They seem to cure a multitude of ailments.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Insoles-Flat-...edical_Specialisations_ET&hash=item3a6391f687
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They look awfully like the old Scholl firm arch support from back in the day...
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These ,or something very similar are marketed and sold in Australia in many pharmacys.
They are nothing more than a bit of orthotic shaped material with a few strategically placed bumps on them.
Ive seen them a few times when people come to the practice , saying they bought them in order to get some pain relief.
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The reality is that there are probably some people who will benefit from these. Good on them.
There are others who will fork out £30 several times over for different types of orthoses claiming to be cure alls instead of going to see someone who will tell them what is actually wrong and the most effective treatment.
Are they mechanically brilliant orthoses - probably not. Does it matter (assuming that they reduce the problem they were purchased to deal with) - no.
See Craig's most recent thread on prefab vs custom
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Agreed. If it is a rebranded "firm arch support" it's not the worst pre fab in the world either! Although the durability was shocking.
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Of course, you are right Robert. It's the implication that we, as are somehow trying trip fleece the public that grates. I sometimes get the same thing from patients that I provide with prefabs. Almost as if they resent the fact that I have solved their problem with something so cheap!
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These resemble something sold by Lidl or Aldi (can't remember which) for a couple of quid. Have some patients turn up with them and they seem to have worked for them.
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If its the same one I'm thinking of it was actually not a bad device! Only good for a few months though.
But It most certainly no do what it says on the tin. -
Sorry could not resist a piece of toilet paper rolled up can make a good device.
Craig Payne told us that when I was a student 17 - 18 years ago took me 10 or so years to believe him - ;)
Good for some bad for others. :D
seems your on the mend - watch out Podiatry Arena Robert is about to go crazy, there may not be a thread over the next month without 2-3 Robert Posts. -
But yeah, back to work next week. My poker game will suffer.
I see your point, but I think it can be taken too far. There are criteria for a "good" pre fab which are independent of whether there is someone it will work for, somewhere. Think of the pre fabs you use and why you use them (as opposed to any other).
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What a prick http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzZjCfU-Q00&feature=player_embedded#at=28
Its the foot industry leader self label that pisses me off -
Now shes "published" a how to use bleach to cure toe nail fungal infections =SLast edited by a moderator: Sep 22, 2016 -
For your own sanity/hypertension don't let this sort of thing get to you. She's not the first (and won't be the last) person to generate a youtube video of clip art and poor resolution photos, cobble them together with erroneous comments that are about 20 years out of date, and do so to get the lay public to fork out 30 notes for a £5 'device' thinking it will do all of the things she promises them it will. And the best bit? Some of them will get better.
Welcome to the show. -
"Magic beans" still grow
beans the crop, nothing grander
Fine, if you want beans" -
I honestly just dont want some old lady being fleeced by these pricks!! who will end up crippling her :butcher: -
Ian,
You should start being an aggression therapist. Look at the calming effect your post has had on Jon;) -
Jon - if my Mum told me she'd bought a pair if these and asked my opinion of them, I'd tell her to try them. The change in magnitude, vector or temporal loading patterns of reaction force at the foot-orthoses interface just might bring the forces in the target tissue to within the zone of optimal stress. Not forgetting our good friend Mr Placebo effect either. Bottom line - they might work.
And if they don't? Well, I'm pretty certain no one is being crippled by these devices. -
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So.. if I can drag you back to the subject of the insoles...
Would you ever recommend them to a patient?
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I'd like to see a trial of these £2 orthoses versus any other prefab in the treatment of say, plantar-fasciitis... bet they'd come out smiling. -
Ok... price, product placement and access aside... Why?
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I think you may be pre-judging my thinking here Simon. I am totally with you on this. My point here is which rationale could we support here. That they work, that they're cheap? If so how and why?
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Needless to say I will never advise my patients to buy anything off ebay , not even a fake rolex
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PS. Don't forget that at this moment in time this lady technically has more qualifications than you (on paper) ;) Good luck in your finals. -
I think there are two points here.
No one (I think) is saying these are terrible insoles. They're not. And as my rt hon colleagues have observed, some people will get better from anything.
My problem with these is encapsulated in the OP title. AMAZING insoles.
That they might do some of the things they claim does not, In my view, excuse that they make claims which they cannot back up, and make misleading and inaccurate statements.
I am reminded of the people who sell vitamin suppliments as cures for HIV, or homeopathy for malaria. Both of these are valid, safe products for some ailments (vitamin deficiency and, well, I guess thirst, respectively). But thats not what they're sold as. A reasonable product should not make unreasonable claims. As per the magic beans. If you swap your cow for magic beans it is little comfort that they may yeild beans. Thats not the basis upon which you purchased them.
Thats what grates. When one tries to hold oneself to making claims which can be justified, it is irritating when other people make no such effort.
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defo 2 quid ****ty prefabs at 27 quidos ur not gettin value 4 money love the outrageos claims wonderin if they cure death.or pehaps make your manhood larger.
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personally , i think putting a patient in such a device, without a consultation , is in the least , irresponsible.
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