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Foot Pronation, Cranial Bones, Headaches - Are They Linked?

Discussion in 'Biomechanics, Sports and Foot orthoses' started by Brian A. Rothbart, Oct 1, 2013.

  1. Brian A. Rothbart

    Brian A. Rothbart Well-Known Member

    I spent 3 years in Mexico in research looking at the Aztec Indians. They provided me with a pure gene pool to investigate the correlation between pressure plate readings muscle tonicity patterns. My research was published in Biomechanics (2005) and online in the Journal of Sports Medicine (2004).

    This research resulted in a research position made available to me at the Instituto Superiore de Sanita in Rome Italy (which I accepted). I was the first American to hold this position in the Department of Bioengineering. My research there resulted in a paper that was published in the JAPMA (2006).

    My position at the ISS gained me prominence which led to another offer to present my research at the Podiatry School in Rome and publish my findings in their journal (which I did). While teaching there I met your mentor Dr Joseph Addante. Joseph and I spent time discussing my work which interest him greatly. I also had the opportunity to assist him in surgery.

    I also accepted a position in the Orthopedic Department at the Albano Medicospecialista Clinic - a large facility encompassing all areas of medicine including dentistry (spent nearly 6 years there). This experience resulted in another paper being published in the JAPMA (2008).

    I would have stayed in Rome the rest of my professional career (I was able to conduct research at the ISS, teach at the Podiatry school, and see private patients at the AMC - all concurrently) but unfortunately my wife could not tolerate the cold damp winters. We had to move to a warmer, dryer climate (Southern Spain).

    I must admit Dan, you are the first individual to show so much interest in where I have lived.

    Professor Rothbart


    Rothbart BA 2005. Tactile therapy shifts patients towards equilibrium. Biomechanics, Vol XII(10):61-68.
    Rothbart BA 2004. Pressure Plate Analysis of the Medial Column Foot Insole. A Statistical Study. Online Journal of Sports Medicine (Italian), November Issue.

    Rothbart BA 2004 Una teoria sul Primo Metatarso Supinato. il Podologo in Medicina, (28): 28-32, luglio agosto.

    Rothbart BA 2006. Relationship of Functional Leg-Length Discrepancy to Abnormal Pronation. Journal American Podiatric Medical Association;96(6):499-507

    Rothbart BA 2008. Vertical Facial Dimensions Linked to Abnormal Foot Motion. Journal American Podiatric Medical Association, 98(3):01-08, May.
     
  2. Brian A. Rothbart

    Brian A. Rothbart Well-Known Member

    Hans,

    In all due respect, you are mistaken. I only accept and treat patients having either the Primus Metatarsus Supinatus foot structure or the PreClinical Clubfoot Deformity (Podiatry Review, 2009, 2010). Those that do not, I refer on to other specialists.

    When you knew me, I was using proprioceptive insoles that I designed and were being manufactured by a company in Tacoma. They proved to be inadequate, not providing precise enough points of stimulation for what I needed to do. So I started hand making my own insoles.

    Regarding lateral side, this does occur if:

    (1) The insole I patented is used on patients who do not have the Primus Metatarsus Supinatus Foot Structure (I designed this insole to treat only those patients), or
    (2) If the medial wedge incorporated into the insole is inappropriate (iatrogenic).

    Your theory regarding the lifting of the toe as a compensation to a body lean may or may not be true; however, the structural supinatus of the medial column of the foot does occur when the ontogenetic development of the foot is interrupted (Rothbart, 2002).

    Professor Rothbart


    Rothbart BA 2009. Morton's Foot vs Rothbart's Foot. Are They the Same? Podiatry Review, Vol 66(3):6-9.

    Rothbart BA 2010. The Primus Metatarsus Supinatus (Rothbarts) Foot and the PreClinical Clubfoot Deformity. Podiatry Review, Vol. 67(1)

    Rothbart BA, 2002. Medial Column Foot Systems: An Innovative Tool for Improving Posture. Journal of Bodywork and Movement Therapies (6)1:37-46
     
  3. Isn't it strange, Brian, that the only mention of pre-clinical clubfoot or primus metatarsal supinatus or rhubarb foot on the internet relates to pages linked you yourself - either one of your own websites or a forum you have contributed to? Remind me what preclinical clubfoot is again?
     
  4. Rob Kidd

    Rob Kidd Well-Known Member



    This work, should be cogent, should be reported in either of the two journals that are the mainstay for this discipline. That is, either the American Journal of Physical Anthropology, or The Journal of human Evolution. Why have you not presented there? they are of course seriously refereed, but then, that should not be a problem to a man of you standing.

    I have been published in both on several occasions, and been to hell and back while doing it! Have fun, become credible.


    Oh: please explain to me what a "pure gene pool" is. Having published a fair bit on Hox, Sonic Hedghog, and Wnt Systems, (which between then control the hominoid foot) I am fascinated to await your response
     
    Last edited: Oct 9, 2013
  5. Brian A. Rothbart

    Brian A. Rothbart Well-Known Member

    Dear Dr Kidd,

    To answer your inquiries:

    I published where I thought appropriate. This maybe and apparently does differ from where you feel would be appropriate. I feel that my last paper that was just published in Cranio required publication in that heavily peer reviewed dental journal because it enveloped concepts very central to dental interventions.

    By the way, if you think publishing in Cranio is easy, give it a try. I have been to heck and back (as you have) working to have my paper published in their journal. Regarding your statement 'a man of my standing', I am not sure exactly what you meant by that, but assuming you said it out of a reverential respect, only time will determine just what my standing will be in the history of Podiatry.

    Regarding the journals you have mentioned above, very candidly I have had no experience with those journals and just have not considered submitting a paper to them. Possibly in the future I will do so.

    When I stated a pure gene pool I was referring to a group of people (Aztecs) whose genotype has practically been unchanged for many many years - .e.g., very little cross breeding with other groups of genotypes.

    Dr Kidd, I am aware of your publications on the different systems that control the hominoid foot (as I assume you are aware of my publications on the two abnormal inherited foot structures that can lead to chronic musculoskeletal pain). On this forum I chose to use the term 'pure gene pool' in an attempt to clarify my thoughts. Of course, from a pedantic viewpoint, this term is inappropriate. (Does this satisfy your fascination?).

    Professor Rothbart
     
  6. blinda

    blinda MVP

    I`d be interested to hear how the `peer review` process is carried out for articles published in the IOCP`s journal - Podiatry Review. Anyone?

    Cheers,
    Bel
     
  7. Brian A. Rothbart

    Brian A. Rothbart Well-Known Member

    Dear Bel,

    I am not sure how the peer review process works in Podiatry Review. It most likely is not as rigorous as say in the JAPMA. Also, I believe they just started a peer review process in Podiatry Review within the last year or so.

    Of the several papers I have published in Podiatry Review, I believe only my 2011 paper was peered review:

    Rothbart BA 2011. Primus Metatarsus Supinatus (Rothbarts Foot): A common cause of musculoskeletal pain - Biomechanical vs Neurophysiological Model. Podiatry Review, Vol.68, No.4, pp 16-18 July/August.

    I have elected to publish in Podiatry Review in order to bring my research to Podiatrists in Europe. For the same reason I have elected to publish in the JAPMA in order to disseminate my research to Podiatrists in the US.

    Professor Rothbart
     
  8. blinda

    blinda MVP


    Brian,

    Do you know how many podiatric members the IOCP actually have? They hardly represent European Podiatrists. I was a member years ago and as such can only speak of my experience then. The quality of articles in Podiatry Review was often poor, without appropriate references and in the main did not even provide the author`s name or contact details.

    In 2010 (when I was no longer a member) they requested my permission to re-print a clinical review of practice that I had already published in a peer reviewed journal and stated that they would peer review it, again. Now, a peer review of a peer reviewed article is not usual and when I pointed this out they were unaware of this in addition to the fact they were obliged to acknowledge where it was originally published. Not very professional, IMO and I wouldn`t be so quick to quote any articles prior to their newly adopted peer-review process which, by your own admittance; "just started .....within the last year or so".
     
  9. Brian A. Rothbart

    Brian A. Rothbart Well-Known Member

    Hi Blinda,

    Update appreciated. However, as I said, publishing in Podiatry Review was my effort to reach Podiatrists in Europe (and from the responses I have received, my effort has been successful).

    with regards,
    Professor Rothbart
     
  10. The one clear thing this thread has demonstrated is that the Rothbart gene pool has a very shallow end.
     
  11. blinda

    blinda MVP

    Not really an `update`, Brian. Just highlighting the dubitable credibilty associated with publishing in said journal, which you often quote.
     
  12. Brian A. Rothbart

    Brian A. Rothbart Well-Known Member

    Dear Blinda,

    In all due respect, you are missing my point. I am not here to impress readers with where I have published (if you check my C.V., you will see I have published in many peer reviewed journals). In fact, I am very comfortable to cite Podiatry Review when it is relevant to the discussion.

    Professor Rothbart
     
  13. Things aren't going so well for you, Brian, in regards to your standing in Podiatry. In fact, I expect in the coming years, you will even less noticed and then forgotten....except perhaps when we talk about those podiatrists who endlessly tried to self-promote themselves into fame and fortune but who were instead ridiculed as a result of their self-promoting behavior.

    "..whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap." Galatians 6:7-9, KJV
     
  14. Brian A. Rothbart

    Brian A. Rothbart Well-Known Member

    So far, this thread has really been a disappointment.

    The importance of maintaining a global picture when dispensing insoles cannot be overly stressed. I was hoping that the discussion on the link between gravity driven pronation and frontal plane divergencies in the cranial bones and atlas would flame such a discussion.

    Instead what has happened is:

    1) One member questioned my place of residencies.
    2) Another member cautioned the citation of a certain journal.
    3) Another member questioned, with great fascination, the use/meaning of the term 'pure gene pool'.

    None, or very little of these inquiries have anything to do with the link between abnormal foot motion and the impact on the frontal plane position of the cranium and C1.

    And I imagine if I read the comments on those individuals I have placed on my spam list, the list would be longer.

    Professor Rothbart
     
  15. Maybe you should tell us all about your PhD thesis consisting of a total of 39 pages which you obtained from a highly questionable academic institution with a history of awarding highly questionable higher degrees, within a subject that appears completely outside of your knowledge base? How did you get on to this PhD program given your apparent complete lack of background in molecular medicine and cancer research? Who were the supervisors for your PhD work and who examined you?

    If anyone reading this lives near the library of congress, I should really appreciate obtaining a copy of Brian's PhD thesis so that I may send it to some experts in the field to gauge their opinions upon it.

    Given your PhD status, I find your lack of understanding of research design and interpretation of research results, as exemplified by the present study, somewhat alarming. The present study is so poorly designed that no objective conclusons could ever be drawn from it. I shall be writing to the journal to question their pubication of it.

    Personally, I find you and your background highly suspicious. Why do you think all of these other people here, some highly respected in their field, feel the way that they do about you, Brian?

    Could you provide the name and address of your present employer please, Brian?
     
  16. wdd

    wdd Well-Known Member




    Dear Sir,

    I was considering buying a pair of professor Rothbart's posture control insoles for about 10,000 dollars but after reading your post I find the rationale of your 'magic pencil' somewhat more convincing. I notice that you are offering a discounted rate of ÂŁ50 against the normal price of ÂŁ20,000. I am slightly disturbed by this and would like to be assured that the quality of the magic and the pencil will be the same even at the lower price?

    Further details of your magic pencil would be appreciated by me and I am sure by the rest of the podiatric community, most especially by those who suffer with chronic headaches.

    I know that it's asking a lot and it is rather greedy of me but is there any chance that the magic might extend beyond curing headaches?

    I think my case is rather unusual and I am hoping against hope that your magic pencil might do the trick.

    While I do infact have slightly more than the average number of limbs this does not prevent me from suffering from a phantom limb pain. The phantom limb is located just lateral to my right foot most of the time, although from time to time they do seem to occupy the same space which of course trips me up and can cause a very nasty fall.

    The pain has been diagnosed as a phantom plantar fasciitis and I paid about ÂŁ500 for a phantom orthosis which I am sure is doing me some good, although I am never sure if I am wearing it the right way round, the right way up or if it's even in my phantom shoe at all.

    However I am sure that you are the man to help me in my predicament.

    Here I go again. Demand demand demand but I do hope that the pencil is well sharpened and that it has a nice rubber on the end.

    Your faithfully
     
  17. Brian A. Rothbart

    Brian A. Rothbart Well-Known Member

    Add WDD to that list and welcome Fishpod to my Spam list.

    Professor Rothbart
     
  18. Brian A. Rothbart

    Brian A. Rothbart Well-Known Member

    Dear Bill,

    I recall an old childhood limerick that went something like this:

    'Sticks and Stones may break my bones ....... etc etc

    Welcome to my Spam folder.

    Professor Rothbart
     
  19. Brian A. Rothbart

    Brian A. Rothbart Well-Known Member

    Peter,

    Didn't your father teach you to respect your elders? Welcome to my spam list.

    Professor Rothbart
     
  20. Brian A. Rothbart

    Brian A. Rothbart Well-Known Member

    Hello, whoever you are -

    Disrespect just doesn't get you very far. And if you comments are suppose to be funny, well they just are not.

    Welcome to my Spam list.

    Professor Rothbart
     
  21. The Rothbart approach to peer inquisition....
     

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  22. Thats putting it somewhat charitably...

    I was asked to review that article (sadly after it was published). Even leaving aside the dubious content, I found the standard of writing and referencing to be about the level I would expect from an unenthusiastic undergraduate.


    All this is relevant Brian because you're asking us to take a series of subjective case studies as evidence because you think them as relevant as objective controlled studies. Of course they're not, but if you ARE hoping that the community will to all intents and purposes "take your word for it" that these insoles cure infertility and "make downs syndrome children look more normal" (and I'm still staggered by the sheer crassness of that claim btw) then your credibility is fairly key! The issues raised here sort of speak to that.

    Put another way, if the lead oncologist at kings announced that he'd found a cure for prostate cancer, I'd be very interested. If (when) Bishop Jim Humble (google him) said that I don't look up from my cornflakes.

    And besides, you ignore it when we DO talk about the research you offered in the OP..

    Which showed "no improvement or a negative frontal plane shift was noted when using only the prescriptive proprioceptive insoles. "

    (empasis mine)
    you prevaricate and sidetrack.

    Can I go on the spam list with everyone else who's sharing the inconvenient truth with you now? It seems like a good group to be in. :D
     
  23. Thankyou for your enquiry into my magic Pencil (TM)

    Firstly let me assure you that the special price of ÂŁ50 should in no way lead you to question the efficacy of "magic pencil" (tm). Magic pencil has been proven efficatious in over 3 subjective outcome trials. Its high time the medical community discarded the physiological model of medicine (which has been challenged repeatedly) and adopted Magic Pencil.

    Magic pencil is indeed efficatious for many medical conditions, including infertility. In fact using magic pencil will make you irresistable to the opposite sex. I'd post a picture here but I'd not want our female readers being overcome with lust. Use it carefully.

    Your phatom extra limb pain is a common condition which is now known in the literature (which I wrote) as "Robarts foot". 5-6 people have been hospitalised by trying to treat Robarts foot with orthoses, don't take the risk.

    I'll try to upload some evidence later on.
     
  24. Peter

    Peter Well-Known Member


    My Dad is a fork lift truck driver from Stoke-on-Trent. He taught me not to sit around fools for too long as the s*it they spill sometimes sticks to your own clothes. Thanks for putting me on your spam list, saves me a job.
     
  25. blinda

    blinda MVP

    Ditto. Please add me to the `spam list` too, Brian.
     
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