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Request for Ability to Delete Contributions from Certain Posters on Podiatry Arena

Discussion in 'Podiatry Arena Help, Suggestions and Comments' started by Kevin Kirby, Apr 9, 2012.

  1. But a positive isn't the same as a negative, Robert.
  2. blinda

    blinda MVP

    Me too. IMO, to demand an end to friendly banter between some of the most highly regarded minds in the advancement of podiatric biomechanic knowledge, who give of their time and advice for FREE, is a tad rude. My `thanks` are often given in appreciation of such intelligent humour.
  3. Belinda:

    Yes, I found this comment rather impudent (or sassy).

    Here, on Podiatry Arena, where many of us spend a lot of our free time discussing important topics with the goal of helping podiatrists and other foot-health professionals from around the world, to better diagnose, treat and understand the complex biomechanics and mechanically-related disorders of the human foot and lower extremity for free, we are now being asked to not have some friendly fun among ourselves to lighten the stress from our already very busy schedules?!

    I do agree that there is sometimes way too much "carrying on" that diverts the course of threads away from educational purposes. However, I also feel that for those who are devoting a very significant amount of time to education here at no expense to the thousands who are learning from these exchanges, they also deserve to be given a little "lee-way" in being able to show their non-academic personalities every now and then with side comments that are meant to be amusing.

    "All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy." Jack Torrance, 1980.
  4. I agree, and just to annoy: it clearly wasn't a pig, Kevin. Although it may well have been an obese deer, with plantar fasciitis, and a cold.
  5. DTT

    DTT Well-Known Member

    Kevin et al

    Very true saying:empathy:

    Sometimes we get too serious with ourselves:mad:

    Lighten up, thats what the banter is about, friends and colleagues that can lighten the mood on a bad day.

    Yes sometimes it may take the thread off topic for a while but a little light relief....:D

    Glad your staying here Kevin / Si / Craig/Mike et al, we would all miss you if you went elsewhere even if you do get grumpy at times with us lesser mortals.
    Cheers all:drinks

    Be Happy coz its a very short life :drinks

  6. Stop it!!!:rolleyes:
  7. I would threaten to post the angular momentum video from the pool in Florida, but I know you shot some film of me in Belgium.:drinks
  8. blinda

    blinda MVP

    Indeed. Sometimes it is tiresome to `have a good sift` through the Carrying On (Bromhidrosis) (see what I did there; trying to keep it podiatary related? No? OK. Not my best) on here, but I do appreciate seeing the human side of the valued posters. The arena is both educational and fun and I have formulated many valued professional relationships/friendships through this medium :drinks

    Think I prefer sassy to impudent, though ;) and please call me `Bel`. I`m called `Belinda` by people who are cross with me...
  9. DTT

    DTT Well-Known Member

    Si , Kevin


    I DARE YOU !!!!!!:D

  10. I don't think so. The good times Kevin, Pam, my family and I have together when relaxing are highly personal and moments which are meaningful to us and were never meant for the scrutiny of our peers. Right, Kevin ;) Shouldn't have mentioned it, my bad.
  11. DTT

    DTT Well-Known Member

    Aww chicken :rolleyes:

    Ok but the banter lightens it all up dunnit :D

    Your Bad...Shizzle....see I'm in wid da yout innit :D:D
    Cheers Buddy
  12. No worries...:drinks
  13. PodAc doc

    PodAc doc Active Member

    Drivel I can ignore. Derogatory attacks on named individuals is something I find much more disturbing. I would like to see the moderators taking action against this sort of 'flaming'.

    In response to the original point - we do have a 'Thanks' button, so would it be possible also to have a 'No thanks' button? That would have the merit of giving feedback to the posters from both directions.

  14. bob

    bob Active Member

    If there was an easy answer to this, someone would have come up with it by now. I admit that certain posters' contributions can be less than helpful, but every internet forum seems to go through stages where accepted groups of individuals (or 'cronies' depending on your position) dominate most of the discussions. As a person external to the cronies group with less time to devote to answering threads and less time to be 'in' on the joke, it can seem quite exclusive and may even encourage troll-like behaviour.

    I am busy at work and have considerably less time to devote to this forum (the only reason why I have yet to follow up on my plantar fasciitis thread, but I will get around to it when I get a chance and thanks to those who have replied). I appreciate the time that each individual professional devotes to answering my questions and hopefully I will get the same appreciation in return when I try to help out with any answer I can offer to any question. I appreciate this, but I am old enough not to expect it. It must be a very difficult task for admin to remain impartial enough to police trolls without constantly kowtowing to a vocal (and often valuable and correct) group of internet 'friends'. I hope admin can strike a reasonable balance and learn from some of the other forums when dealing with difficult situations such as this. I have left many other forums (not podiatry related as I used to have a life outside of work too) due to excessive unchecked behaviour of trolls and excessive unchecked cronyism. I value podiatry arena as a worthwhile international educational resource where I can get easy access to the latest journal abstracts, ask colleagues around the world for their opinions on podiatry related matters, help where I can (if I can) and have my truths challenged. I wish admin the best of luck in dealing with issues such as this and I hope that all of the valued contributors to the site appreciate that there is no easy answer to everyone's concerns.
  15. Re: *


    I was thinking something more along the lines of a button on my computer keyboard that controlled a dog shock collar that was fitted on the neck of the Podiatry Trolls. In this way, when they got out of line, we would be all be able to give them a little "correction". I'm sure this would be a most highly effective method at improving their behavior.

    Pain is a great motivator.;):drinks
  16. Re: *

    Level 6 should just about be the appropriate stimulus for those individuals who want to continue interjecting comments into our discussions about their patented, trademarked ideas here on Podiatry Arena.:rolleyes::butcher::cool:

    Last edited by a moderator: Sep 22, 2016
  17. BEN-HUR

    BEN-HUR Well-Known Member

    The main issue here is that this forum has a strong education/academic element attached to it which other forums do not (which is a great asset to Podiatry & those involved in lower limb assessment). For this to be successful & enlightening to the masses, effort is required (based on years of experience) to contribute worthy material that many around the world can access (at their finger tips) & subsequently develop as a practitioner. This naturally/subsequently would attract/develop a fair degree of responsibility, passion & pride (to name a few elements) in this role & subsequently for the profession(s) itself (i.e. Podiatry). With this in mind, I can understand why some/many would get annoyed when it is perceived that another individual is seen to be a denigrator, nuisance, troll etc... thus subsequently jeopardizing the above intended character/nature of the forum & even other individuals.

    That said, a higher degree of passion & pride can also potentially make experiences on this forum strained as it can develop into intolerance in general (i.e. based on the career, academic standing of another) ... & intolerance of other opinions different to their own (i.e. world view/philosophy etc...). This nature in itself can adversely affect the academic fulfilment of this forum. Be that as it may, this is an assumption of which may be present on this forum & thus does reflect any particular person... but worthy to consider none the less (also putting aside the boys club issue raised earlier in this thread).

    However, this writing medium isn't the most conducive in conveying one's true/sincere intentions... particularly on difficult/sensitive/passionate topics. There can at times be a fine line at what one would see a "denigrating" & another as "constructive criticism" (i.e. playing the devil's advocate)... thus, also has a subjective element – which is difficult to effectively & fairly moderate. That said, I have noticed some individuals on hear who appear to intentionally be a thorn in another's side... some of which making blatant personal attacks, which inevitably sends a thread to the dark side... consequently, flow is lost, thought patterns are diverted from education/academic mode to defensive mode... multiple posts ensue that are of no productive value to the subject matter... subsequently the education value is lost in translation in some cases (barefoot/footwear related threads are a good example of this).

    Based on the above traits, I at many times couldn’t be bothered contributing to some threads as to get involved can potentially zap up so much time (of which I have little of). However, I also see this as not a conducive solution either as it then affects the intended role of the forum – that is to freely express sincere ideas/hypotheses for at least sincere consideration to take place. For this character to be validated, sincere answers should also be given to justify one’s position – this doesn’t always ensue (which may in itself be a tell tale sign of one’s intentions). I’m not too experienced on this forum but it seems the Biomechanics related topics are the most at threat to the above scenarios (of which the topic of barefoot/footwear related topics are related).

    Whilst I too get annoyed at times, a "delete button" of such should only be available for a moderator based on issues stated in the above opening paragraphs i.e. the subjective nature of perceived intentions; the human nature of biased intentions; those with a personal grudge of sorts etc., etc.... this “delete button” can potentially get out of hand & we may end up with a somewhat similar scenario I was reminded of in an old Simpsons episode... Shock Aversion therapy...

    Also found here or here if the above video doesn't work in your region.

    Hence probably why the following may have varying results for some... & potentially get out of hand; albeit, it would be a fun concept to implement for a while... even just in jest.

    Maybe the answer is to allow a thread to take its course as we all seem to agree that the moderating of the above issues is difficult. Whilst the thread is developing to then start compiling / transferring legitimate worthy posts into a summary thread of that topic for those to follow & learn (without the waffle). Maybe there could be an impartial/neutral team for implementing this (???).

    There is that John F Kennedy quote that comes to mind whilst skimming through this thread... the one that goes like... “My fellow Americans, ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country”. As lame as this may sound to some, we should endeavour to apply this mindset to Podiatry Arena... whilst at the same time the following may also be of use to keep one’s sanity at times when the tolerance reservoir overflows & frustration levels increase...

    Not a fan of Freud at all but thought it appropriate under the circumstances (had to edit so as less offensive).
    Last edited by a moderator: Sep 22, 2016
  18. Thats a nice and well thought through post.
  19. Lorcan

    Lorcan Active Member

    I would firstly like to express my gratitude to the Admins for continuing to provide such a wonderful resource and to those who post and give their advice/opinions. I have never failed to learn from time spent on this forum.
    I believe that users should attempt to use it in as professional a manner as posssible, as they hopefully do when dealing with patients and work colleagues. While the friendly banter/chat is not appropriate for a professional forum, and can easily be carried out elsewhere with social media, it is not the end of the world.

    However I would request that the personal attacks which are disruptive and far too common are stopped. This is neither professional nor nessecary to argue your point. These attacks have time and again resulted in potential useful discussions ending and in my opinion encourage the silent majority to not voice any opinion. I would politely urge the admins to delete these posts and take action against transgressers who repeatedly launch personal attacks, showing no favour to any posters no matter what their standing in the profession. No one is irreplacable.

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