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Discussion in 'United Kingdom' started by footsiegirl, Aug 20, 2010.

  1. footsiegirl

    footsiegirl Active Member

    Oh, WOW, CM, is that a compliment, by any fat chance?! ;)

    Don,t worry, I have already sussed out the problem going on here...

    If it was because they dont have the confidence...then why am I able to post here?

    If it is because they dontn have the knowledge...then that is precicely why they would post here...

    ...welcome back from your jollies...;)

    PS do you like my pic?
     
  2. cornmerchant

    cornmerchant Well-Known Member

    footsiegirl
    Personally I fnd your avatar hideous but that is beside the point and completely irrelevant.

    Most FHPs do not have the confidence because they do not have the medical background that you can boast- any Tom Dick or Harry can do the course. However, although your previous existence as a nurse may well give you a better understanding, the fact that you chose to limit yourself by underaking an unregulated course means that you are unable to use those skills legaly within your remit.

    If FHPs do not have the knowledge and we know that they do not, they would be very unsure of exposoing themselves on a site where they will be seen to be no more than pedicurists. Lets face it, even though the grandparented will champion their cause, those of us that trained either with diploma or degree really want nothing to do with them.

    You are, as far as I can see, here either as devils advocate or bear bainting. I am not sure of your agenda but you definately have one! We are all agreed that you are one canny lass, so fess up- what do you want?

    Cornmerchant
     
  3. footsiegirl

    footsiegirl Active Member


    LOL...I DREW THAT AVATAR!

    I think you mean bear baiting, perhaps?

    ...is that the Royal "we"?
     
  4. cornmerchant

    cornmerchant Well-Known Member

    Definately the royal 'we" . I am not the only one to wonder where you are coming from , Simon has already pointed out that you are intelligent- take it as a compliment.

    Yes, bear baiting-I stand corrected.

    I hope your foot care is better than your art work.

    You have not answered the question.


    CM
     
  5. footsiegirl

    footsiegirl Active Member

    i just sold a painting...but irrespective of the subject matter..it is a reasonable piece of work, no?

    lol

    What is my agenda?

    i dont have one!

    There...you are wrong ...lol
     
  6. cornmerchant

    cornmerchant Well-Known Member

    Whatever...........

    So- you gave up nursing to pamper feet and............paint?????? If you truly want my opinion on your artwork- it is not exactly gonna hit Sothebys in the near future is it? But then I have a very alternative taste in art so it wouldn't be up my street- you may do well on QVC though?

    CM
     
  7. fronny

    fronny Active Member

    QVC?? How very patronising. I have nothing to add to this general bun fight, but I do like Footsie's artwork. So enlighten us CM, what is your 'alternative' art - Emin, Rothko, Kandinsky, Chagall - I'm stabbing in the dark here so do tell!
     
  8. footsiegirl

    footsiegirl Active Member

    I never took up painting, its just something i have done off and on over my lifetime for my pleasure.

    It may or may not surprise you that I also write...but there you go, you probably already discovered I can string a couple of sentences together! ;)

    I dont "pamper feet" - I undertake routine foot care to people who, either unable to manage it themselves, or because they have corns,callous, verrucae, oc or fungal nails; and fortunately for them, I am able to care for their feet very much to their satisfaction and comfort. Unfortunately for them, most of them have already been to the other 3 chiropodists/pods locally, and then come to me. One such chiro is 82 (!) and charges £10 and they go home with a shoe full of blood, one is reputed to stink of curry and cigars (!) and has a very nervous disposition. He is apparently great at the biomechanics but not interested (= no good) at the routine stuff. The third such chiro runs a clinic in town, and his hygiene standards leave a lot to be desired. I know this probably isnt the norm to have such a shabby array of professionals in one area, but that is the situation. I dont know any others in the area and therefore, on the odd occasion I have to refer a patient, I refer back to the NHS Pod via the GP. If I knew of others within a reasonable distance, then I would, of course, like to sometimes be able to offer my patients the choice of a private chiro/pod to help with a problem outside my scope; and I am actively seeking such a person that I feel I can entrust with my patients' feet.

    I dont have an agenda. I am here because I seek to learn through through this online arena (arena being meant in its most general term), and in order to gain mutual support with other FHPs and indeed any chiros/pods willing to provide it. I realise that the latter is highly unlikely- but I am a a persistent beggar, and who knows, I may wear you all down sufficiently to be considered the Podiatry Arena mascot! :dizzy::pigs::deadhorse:

    Until then, I will keep posting and learning (for I have learned through these forums), and then time will tell. Hopefully, some of my postings may be of assistance to other FHPs- indeed any other professional here...
     
  9. Catfoot

    Catfoot Well-Known Member

    Footsie,
    You said
    If what you say is correct and you have proof that these practitioners fall well below the standard expected, it is your duty, in the public interest, to notify the Health Professions Council. Their Fitness to Practice Dept would be interested in hearing your concerns at ftp@hpc-uk.org The HPC was created to protect the public but can only do so if instances of poor practice are reported to them. All complaints are published on a website that is in the public domain.

    If you choose not to do so, then you are either condoning their behaviour or have other motives for "rubbishing" local practitioners that could be classed as competition.

    CF
     
    Last edited: Aug 31, 2010
  10. footsiegirl

    footsiegirl Active Member

    Morning CF:D

    Yes you are right CF...IF I have PROOF...however, as I have been told through these forums (by you?) unless someone wants to make a complaint, then I dont have proof. I am not in here to rubbish potential competition, for they are not competition to me in the work I do...I merely explained my presence on these forums, and that I was actively seeking someone of a high calibre to whom i could refer on the odd occasion that I needed to. I have not divulged identities, but merely highlighted some of the problems that exist within podiatry, as some Chiros/Pods have also done.
     
  11. fronny

    fronny Active Member

    I have heard lots of anecdotal tales about other practitioners such as the person who washed their instruments in a lady's sink ready for the next patient and the one who allegedly pared a malignant melanoma etc etc. My reply is always the same 'If YOU are not happy about this then take it up with the HPC'. If I have not seen it happen with my own eyes then it remains smoke and mirrors. It is not our job to police people for the HPC without evidence. I'm sure many of these tales are true, but at the end of the day its up to the aggreived patient to complain, not me.
     
  12. Catfoot

    Catfoot Well-Known Member

    Footsie,
    You said

    I have found 5 such practitioners in your area all qualified to administer Local Anaesthetics. I can pm you with the names if you wish.

    CF
     
  13. footsiegirl

    footsiegirl Active Member

    Please CF...
     
  14. Catfoot

    Catfoot Well-Known Member

    Fronny,
    Your statement
    is nothing more than a cop-out IMO. It is the responsibility of all registered practitioners to expose poor practice.

    Using this logic then do I assume that you would do nothing if you saw someone taking a jemmy to your neighbpurs back window?

    Footsie,
    I will pm you a list with the proviso that by sending such a list does not constitute any recommendation, as none of these practitioners are personally known to me. They are all annotated on the HPC register as proficient in the use of LA . However, it is up to you to vet these practitioners yourself.

    CF
     
  15. footsiegirl

    footsiegirl Active Member

    Thank you

    I do, of course have access to other HPC registered practitioners , but like you, I cannot endorse their skills and professionalism, because I do not know them .
     
  16. footsiegirl

    footsiegirl Active Member

    Yet, CF, you admit that EVIDENCE is required...which I think was the point Fronny was making?
     
  17. Catfoot

    Catfoot Well-Known Member

    Footsie,

    Yes, that was one of the points, with which I concur.
    I was taking issue with the statement post 91#

    because I think it is the responsibility of all registered practitioners to report poor practice. Most of us have digital cameras or mobile 'phones that can take pictures, so evidence should not be difficult to obtain.

    Re;Pods in your area :-
    I would just add that as all the practitioners I have listed are all annotated on the HPC register for the use of LA, therefore I am making the assumption that they have all done the three year f/t degree-level course.
    A simple 'phone call would ascertain whether or not this is correct.

    CF
     
    Last edited: Aug 31, 2010
  18. footsiegirl

    footsiegirl Active Member

    Not a criteria for a referral - other qualities, skills and knowledge would be ahead of that...


    Incidently...I can draw, write, and make the odd phone call...;)
     
  19. There's an old saying that before you come to an opinion of another, you should first walk a mile or so in their shoes. But no matter how much I try, I cannot envisage any circumstance where I would be prepared to do that with you; such is the negativity that seeps through your posts. Pity you can't channel your undoubted enthusiasm into something more positive in your professional life, but I guess that would take something that I doubt you might ever be fortunate to have.

    This and similar threads are not a good adverisment for UK podiatry, however you care to look at it.
     
  20. Catfoot

    Catfoot Well-Known Member

    Mark,
    I think we all know that you have an issue with the existence of the HPC (maybe justifiably, I might add) and all of your posts that concern them will be biased accordingly.

    IMO UK Podiatry is in a mess and nothing I say will make it any worse.

    IMO one of the biggests mistakes that was made was allowing hundreds of Grandparented onto the HPC register without any test of competance, leading to practitioners with different levels of training all lumped together. All this has done is to confuse the service user. I find it very difficult to find anything positive about this scenario.

    Incidentally, I thought this thread was about FHPs not "Podiatry" ??

    CF
     
    Last edited: Aug 31, 2010
  21. footsiegirl

    footsiegirl Active Member


    Yes, I am glad that at last we are on the same wave length - EVIDENCE - if it presented itself to me by way of a complaint, or visual evidence (sorry I ommited to include this in my reference to 'evidence' ) then it would indeed be incumbent upon me to report this to the practitioner's governing body
     
  22. I made no mention of the HPC nor was I referring to them indirectly. My observation was of you and how you conduct and communicate within your professional relationships.
    Agreed. And nothing you are saying is making it any better. So probably best not to say anything at all.

    Kind regards
     
  23. Catfoot

    Catfoot Well-Known Member

    Mark,
    I am sorry you do not agree with the idea of trying to raise the standard of UK podiatry by eradicating poor practice.

    You assume too much. You know nothing about me or my "professional relationships". I do not class posting to anonymous persons on this forum "professional relationships".

    Everyone who posts here will have an agenda and an opinion which they are entitled to express.

    If you persist in dragging this thread down to a personal level, I will ask admin to pull it.

    CF
     
  24. Your idea of what constitutes raising professional standards or promoting good practice are so far removed from what I would consider desirable that I may well think of them as repugnant or even repulsive. That is not to say I don't think you are a capable clinician, or that you are enthusisatic, but there is so much more that enables someone's fitness or suitability to practise, especially their relationship and interaction with others - anonymous or not. Did you consider your own online "identity" before you made that statement?? Sure everyone's entitled to an opinion - such a pity many of them are in so much bad taste.
     
  25. Catfoot

    Catfoot Well-Known Member

    Mark,
    You are entitled to have your opinions and to express them.

    If you want to sit on the Ribble mudflats getting high on the ozone and fantasing about a General Podiatry Council that's fine by me. The rest of us have to live in the real world.

    CF
     
  26. footsiegirl

    footsiegirl Active Member

    I would like to point out (for the record) that my identity was NOT hidden (unlike yours CF) when I joined the Arena. However, after coming into contact with your venomous postings and obvious put downs, and after being "warned" about you, I decided that I would lift my details from my profile.
     
  27. Be assured, I'm just grateful, ours do not coincide.
     
  28. Catfoot

    Catfoot Well-Known Member

    Footsie,
    I am at a loss to undestand your posting.

    I am not really interested as to what you put on your profile.

    Both our identities are hidden. However, you made a point of sussing out where I was located. I have not complained about this.

    I have never supported the unregulated sector and have not made any secret of that fact.

    If you would care to look back through my "venomous" postings you will see that I have given you information that I thought might be useful. I have also supplied you with a list of HPC reg pods in your area that are proficient in LA, as you said you had no-one in the private sector to refer on to.

    I hope those who "warned you" about me will continue to have your welfare at heart.

    CF
     
    Last edited: Aug 31, 2010
  29. footsiegirl

    footsiegirl Active Member



    He? Surely, a "she"?
     
  30. footsiegirl

    footsiegirl Active Member

    Catfoot,
     
  31. fronny

    fronny Active Member

    Catfoot,

    Just to reiterate, I did say "If I have not seen it happen with my own eyes." This makes photographic evidence problematic - who's to say when, where or how the handywork occured? Surely the patient concerned would need to complain; if they were unwilling to do so wouldn't this call the whole thing into question? The fact that a complaint came from a third party and not the person affected would undoubtedly be problematic.

    And as to whether I would stand by while a burglar jemmied my neighbour's window? If you knew my neighbour, then you'd know that the answer is 'yes'.;)
     
    Last edited: Aug 31, 2010
  32. Catfoot

    Catfoot Well-Known Member

    Fronny

    :D

    CF
     
  33. Hi there Footsiegirl
    I have just joined this forum. I have just started working as a Dom FHP in the SE of UK
     
  34. Catfoot

    Catfoot Well-Known Member

    Hello Theresa,
    Unfortunately I think you will find that you are about 7 years too late to contact Footsiegirl who left this forum some time ago.

    I think you will find that most FHPs only stay in business for about 2 years and then fold. It seems that Footsiegirl is no exception.

    Let's hope you do a bit better eh?

    Cheers

    CF
     
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